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GMoney2600
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Hoodoo Man
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re: Rookie Safeties
Suddenly, everyone loves PFF.

Back when I made PFF threads, I'd get a bunch of "PFF doesn't mean shit" and "that grade is bullshite, it doesn't meet my eye test" week in and week out.
Even after I wrote in a disclaimer that "these grades should be taken with a grain of salt," I still got complaints.


Brettesaurus Rex
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re: Rookie Safeties
And Lattimore was the 4th overall highest graded CB in the league last week. I love that we finally have some athleticism in the defensive backfield again. Our best teams always had that difference maker.


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htran90
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re: Rookie Safeties
quote:

Suddenly, everyone loves PFF.

Back when I made PFF threads, I'd get a bunch of "PFF doesn't mean shit" and "that grade is bullshite, it doesn't meet my eye test" week in and week out.
Even after I wrote in a disclaimer that "these grades should be taken with a grain of salt," I still got complaints.




whats funny is PFF was more accurate when you were posting it than it is now.


smash williams
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re: Rookie Safeties
I have to be honest the only reason I've paid attention this season is because of how well Tredavious White and Kendall Beckwith are playing.


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Hoodoo Man
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re: Rookie Safeties
I definitely prefer the old PFF.

When they changed up their scoring and the interface, it was borderline unusable.
They went from basically using z-scores to using...I have no idea what...school grades?
And then you couldn't find player's grades as easily as you could before.

It's why I let my subscription lapse.


breauxmosexual
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Member since Aug 2016
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re: Rookie Safeties
Probably a good thing. Any grown man paying for a PFF subscription needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.


Hoodoo Man
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re: Rookie Safeties
I'm saving my money for a Josh Dobbs fathead.


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CocoLoco
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re: Rookie Safeties
If I were a writer I'd pay for it. Sucks that it's outrageously expensive
This post was edited on 10/4 at 9:39 pm


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bonethug0108
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re: Rookie Safeties
I still treat PFF the same. It's good to get a gauge of where a player might fall, but realize these guys are fans like us and they also don't know the play calls on every play and what everyone is supposed to be doing.

I think the out of a hundred thing they do now is better than the plus/minus/nil thing they did for each play because many plays just used nil.

Edit:
To take that last comment further, if they had a player who was deemed to "do his job" on 65 snaps (for a nil score) but was deemed to have 5 bad plays, he'd finish with a -1.0 (iirc).

So while said player didn't do anything spectacular all game to earn any pluses, he did his job for 93% of the snaps, while only having bad plays on 7%.

I always thought the players should get some kind of positive score just for "doing their job".
This post was edited on 10/4 at 11:37 pm


Chad504boy
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re: Rookie Safeties
Lattimore will be an all pro one day if health allows


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t00f
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re: Rookie Safeties
quote:

Suddenly, everyone loves PFF.




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Bduhon55
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Member since Sep 2008
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re: Rookie Safeties
I don't particularly like highest rated "rookie" categories...how many actual rookies are starting at each position...if he were the 3rd best Safety through 4 weeks I would be more excited. He has played well and I like his movement to the ball. Should have had a pick last week but I guess the speed of the game and being in the moment his hands were just out of position. Bright future for sure.


saints5021
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re: Rookie Safeties
What this says is that we are basically getting the same level of production from Williams as Adams and Hooker. Great pick.


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Broken Ear Glen
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re: Rookie Safeties
PFF guys rave on twitter about Lattimore. Saw a thread between a couple of them asking who was a better prospect at CB in the last 15 years. They came up with 10 possibilities. Prospect, keep in mind. Couple of them already crowning him as a top 12 CB in the league. Obviously we're all pumping breaks a bit, but it's exciting to know that people who have at the very least an advanced knowledge of football can already see extreme potential in Lattimore.
This post was edited on 10/5 at 11:23 am


9WhoDat37
Member since Sep 2017
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re: Rookie Safeties
He makes complex changes in direction look easy. Very fluid when receivers make cuts. Can't teach that


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lsutigers1992
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re: Rookie Safeties
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Suddenly, everyone loves PFF.



Any article that puts a Saint or the team in a positive light is a "good read."


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