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Ranking the Rosters, 1-32
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:48 am
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This is an insider's post on ESPN so I've copied the list and what they say about our beloved Saints below:
1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. Denver
4. New Orleans
5. Philly
6. New England
7. Cinncy
8. Green Bay
9. Arizona
10. Kansas City
11. Detroit
12. Indy
13. Miami
14. San Diego
15. Chicago
16. Baltimore
17. Tampa
18. Dallas
19. NY Giants
20. Buffalo
21. Tennessee
22. Carolina
23. NY Jets
24. Cleveland
25. Houston
26. Washington
27. Pittsburg
28. Oakland
29. Minnesota
30. Atlanta
31. St. Louis
32. Jacksonville
They have a ranking system of:
Elite
High Quality
Good Starter
Average Starter
Below Average Starter
Poor Starter
Not Enough Information
Rookie
They've broken down our starters as such:
Offense:
QB - Drew Brees (Elite)
HB - Mark Ingram (Average)
HB2 - Pierre Thomas (High Quality)
TE - Jimmy Graham (Elite)
WR1 - Colston (High Quality)
WR2 - Brandin Cooks (Rookie)
WR3 - Kenny Stills (Average)
LT - Armstead (NEI)
LG - Grubbs (Good Starter)
C - Tim Lelito (NEI)
RG - Jahri (Good Starter)
RT - Strief (High Quality)
Defense:
LE - Akiem Hicks (Good Starter)
NT - Brod Brunk (Good Starter)
RE - Cam Jordan (High Quality)
LOLB - JR Galette (Good Starter)
LILB - David Hawthorne (Below Average)
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
ROLB - Victor Butler (Average)
LCB - Champ Bailey (Good Starter)
RCB - Keenan Lewis (High Quality)
NCB - Corey White (Average)
SS - Kenny Vaccaro (Good Starter)
FS - Jarius Byrd (Elite)
This is an insider's post on ESPN so I've copied the list and what they say about our beloved Saints below:
1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. Denver
4. New Orleans
5. Philly
6. New England
7. Cinncy
8. Green Bay
9. Arizona
10. Kansas City
11. Detroit
12. Indy
13. Miami
14. San Diego
15. Chicago
16. Baltimore
17. Tampa
18. Dallas
19. NY Giants
20. Buffalo
21. Tennessee
22. Carolina
23. NY Jets
24. Cleveland
25. Houston
26. Washington
27. Pittsburg
28. Oakland
29. Minnesota
30. Atlanta
31. St. Louis
32. Jacksonville
quote:
4. New Orleans Saints
For years, the Saints had an offense that could hang with anybody while their defense consistently let them down. The year they won the Super Bowl, the defense still wasn't stellar, but it had a stellar run of generating turnovers.
This year, however, the D has some legit talent of its own. Jairus Byrd joins Kenny Vaccaro to give the Saints a safety tandem that should rival Seattle's for the best in football, and Byrd is the kind of free safety who allows you to change the coverages you run on the back end. The front seven has been slowly retooled and now has some legitimate talent and depth.
As always, the offense has plenty of weapons without any superstars among the receivers and backs. The offensive line could be stronger, but Drew Brees is well capable of making them look better than they really are.
By the numbers: The Saints are tied for the league lead with three starters (12.5 percent) as elite and they have five more players (20.8 percent) following closely behind as high-quality starters. The linebacker corps is the weak link, with both David Hawthorne and Curtis Lofton grading out below average, but both have had seasons of high-quality play earlier in their careers.
They have a ranking system of:
Elite
High Quality
Good Starter
Average Starter
Below Average Starter
Poor Starter
Not Enough Information
Rookie
They've broken down our starters as such:
Offense:
QB - Drew Brees (Elite)
HB - Mark Ingram (Average)
HB2 - Pierre Thomas (High Quality)
TE - Jimmy Graham (Elite)
WR1 - Colston (High Quality)
WR2 - Brandin Cooks (Rookie)
WR3 - Kenny Stills (Average)
LT - Armstead (NEI)
LG - Grubbs (Good Starter)
C - Tim Lelito (NEI)
RG - Jahri (Good Starter)
RT - Strief (High Quality)
Defense:
LE - Akiem Hicks (Good Starter)
NT - Brod Brunk (Good Starter)
RE - Cam Jordan (High Quality)
LOLB - JR Galette (Good Starter)
LILB - David Hawthorne (Below Average)
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
ROLB - Victor Butler (Average)
LCB - Champ Bailey (Good Starter)
RCB - Keenan Lewis (High Quality)
NCB - Corey White (Average)
SS - Kenny Vaccaro (Good Starter)
FS - Jarius Byrd (Elite)
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:52 am to 4thandinches
quote:
LOLB - JR Galette (Good Starter)
LILB - David Hawthorne (Below Average)
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:53 am to 4thandinches
I'm honestly shocked by the Failcon's ranking. That was considered a good roster a year ago minus a good OL.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:54 am to 4thandinches
quote:
4. New Orleans
quote:
WR3 - Kenny Stills (Average)
quote:
RG - Jahri (Good Starter)
quote:
RE - Cam Jordan (High Quality)
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:54 am to 4thandinches
I go to bed thinking about our roster. 53 men are wooing me to sleep. It's awesome.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:57 am to c on z
quote:
I'm honestly shocked by the Falcon's ranking.
Firstly, FIFY
Secondly, they have a lot of below average starters. Most of them are actually below average.
No Elite players.
Two high quality players (Ryan and Jones).
The rest their not too fond of.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:57 am to c on z
quote:
I'm honestly shocked by the Failcon's ranking. That was considered a good roster a year ago minus a good OL.
They let their lines go in the toilet, and depth was always an issue for them, even in their good years.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:58 am to 4thandinches
quote:
RG - Jahri (Good Starter)
RT - Strief (High Quality)
What???
quote:
LE - Akiem Hicks (Good Starter)
NT - Brod Brunk (Good Starter)
Hicks>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bunkley
quote:
LILB - David Hawthorne (Below Average)
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
i dont even....
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:59 am to Hester Carries
quote:I'm inclined to agree with it.
LILB - David Hawthorne (Below Average)
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
i dont even....
Hawthorne anyway.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:00 pm to Hester Carries
I actually thought it was strange that Evans wasn't HQ. Strief, I agree with. He's one of the better tackles in the league.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:01 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
I'm inclined to agree with it.
Hawthorne anyway.
Me too, and Lofton average at best.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:02 pm to Hester Carries
quote:
RILB - Curtis Lofton (Below Average)
Did not have a good season last year. I actually agree with this.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:16 pm to Hester Carries
quote:
Hicks>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bunkley
Don't get out of hand here. Bunkley is still one of the best run defensive nose tackles in the league.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:18 pm to LaBornNRaised
quote:
HB2 - Pierre Thomas (High Quality)
Strongly disagree. Good starter.
And you don't need to come out of the woodworks to defend him. I ain't trashing him.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:30 pm to 4thandinches
I think espn did well for a change. Maybe its a new employee?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:37 pm to 4thandinches
quote:
I actually thought it was strange that Evans wasn't HQ. Strief, I agree with. He's one of the better tackles in the league.
I love Evans, but he gets called for holding at the most inopportune times.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:40 pm to goatmilker
Lol it was written by Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:55 pm to 4thandinches
Tampa is going to be legit this year.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 1:01 pm to HollierThanThou
I have no problem with out ILB rankings. Their pass coverage (or lack thereof) is what hurts their rating the most. With Goodwin returning, I believe ILB is probably our weakest link going into the season.
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