re: Payton and Family Are Moving To Dallas Confirmed

I agree with you on this one.

something does not add up

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I'm thrilled I didn't buy Payton's stupid book.

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FWIW, not that its a surprise to anyone, but Payton's book > Brees book

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Don't kid yourself.

It's one of the upper tier jobs due in very large part to Sean Payton

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I agree completly

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This wont work. No way can Payton put in the time to keep the Saints at a high level. He just lost a lot of respect ,not just from N.O. ,but the state of Louisiana. Only good thing is the Williams situation , he may be the coach in waiting,and would be a good one. Payton needs to straighten this out now. If thier is a way to straighten it out. It sucks.





you are pathetic


Its going to be an hour plane flight from Nola to Dallas, and plenty of coaches have done it. Payton's decisions about his family are non of your concern and reacting like you are is childish and pathetic.

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ARE you nuts, this is not a goog thing. Where are those coaches now. We will have to wait and see. But it is NOT a good thing. And childish and pathetic. About 1000 posters disagree with you. I hope we both are happy with the outcome. this can not be considered childish and pathetic,on my part, and many others, by a long shot. It could be very serious,or not , we dont know.

Just in case y'all missed this link by Jeff Duncan... I found it an interesting POV.





The last time a prominent New Orleanian tried to buy a home in Dallas and commute to New Orleans it didn't work out well.


G. Andrew Boyd/The Times-PicayuneSean Payton has left himself open to a lot of criticism for buying the house in Dallas.
For the new homeowner or for the Crescent City.

I know it's unfair to compare New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton and former New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin, but the two now share something other than a Lombardi Gras parade toast: Controversy.

On the anniversary of the Saints' only Super Bowl title, a day in which Payton etched his name in Super Bowl lore and forever won the hearts of the Who Dat Nation with a bold onside kick call to start the second half, New Orleans was hit with a different kind of "Ambush" on Monday afternoon.

The news that Payton plans to move his family to a Dallas suburb won't be embraced or celebrated anytime soon by Saints fans, especially the hometown Who Dats.

This puzzling move opens a Pandora's Box for the Saints and creates a slew of unanswered questions.

What precipitated the move?

How will it work?

And why now?

Was this a recent development or part of Payton's long-term plan?

We know he pitched this idea to the Saints when he originally interviewed for the job in 2006. Back then, General Manager Mickey Loomis wisely nixed it.

"Mickey wasn't keen on that at all," Payton wrote in his book, "Home Team."

"Whoever came would have to be all in, he said. It was essential that the New Orleans Saints' head coach be as much a part of the team and the community as any player, any team official or any fan. This was not a job a head coach could just phone in."

And it still isn't. I'm not sure how or why the organization would now acquiesce.

Payton is nobly respectful of his family and the demands his job places on them, and he values their happiness more than most head coaches I've met. If he's making the move to appease and reward them for their commitment, then his intentions are understandable and admirable.

But that doesn't make it the move right, and it will be far from popular.

Judging by the initial reactions from Saints fans around town, Payton will need to muster all of his considerable persuasion skills to sell the locals on it.

Understandably, Saints fans feel a sense of betrayal and skepticism.

After all, he's not moving the family to his summer home in Watercolor, Fla., or closer to his family's Midwestern roots.

He's moving to Dallas, a town Payton admittedly loves, where his former boss and deep-pocketed pal Jerry Jones operates the hated Dallas Cowboys.

I can't imagine Saints owner Tom Benson is too happy about that.

And spare me the comparisons to Tony La Russa, Doc Rivers and Tony Dungy. They don't apply here.

Those coaches maintained dual residences from the outset of their employments. In the case of Rivers and Dungy, they left behind markets where they had been previously fired. Boston Celtics and Indianapolis Colts fans didn't have to worry about their coaches going back to Orlando or Tampa.

This situation is different. Payton and his family have been embedded in the New Orleans community for five years. Their kids were enrolled in local schools. They had two feet in and now are stepping one of them into Texas.

This might not be a figurative divorce, but it certainly feels a lot like a separation.

Payton should understand better than anyone the potential repercussions. He's testing the limits of his enormous local popularity and -- along with the Saints -- has opened himself up to widespread scrutiny.

Sure, Payton is under contract for two more years. Sure, he has got a future Hall of Fame quarterback in Drew Brees, a hands-free owner and savvy general manager who allow him to run his program with near complete autonomy.

But you know what they say about blood and water, and Payton's blood now runs in Texas.

Speculation about Payton's eventual reunion with Jones has circulated around town for years, and it now will run rampant every time the Cowboys suffer a three-game losing streak.

This isn't the first questionable move of Payton's five-year tenure, but it's potentially much more damaging to his reputation than popping a few extra Vicodin or aligning himself with ex-con Mike Ornstein.

I don't have any doubt about Payton's commitment to the Saints, and his competitive drive is unquestioned. He's fiercely loyal to Loomis, Benson, his players and staff, and he'll undoubtedly remain that way.

But plain and simple, this just looks bad.

New Orleans is the most proudly provincial city in America, and there's no room for fence-sitters in post-Katrina New Orleans. You're all in or you're all out.

Some Saints fans still haven't forgiven Benson for his back-door flirtations with San Antonio. And ask Chris Paul if he regrets floating those trade rumors last summer.

And by no means is this a knock on the great Dallas Metroplex. The city gave shelter to thousands of storm victims after Katrina. It opened its arms to our wet, huddled masses -- and for that we should all be forever grateful.

My sister and her family moved to the Dallas area two decades ago and still live in Grapevine, just down the road from the Paytons' new home. The neighborhoods are safe and clean, the schools are great and the economy robust. It's a wonderful place to live.

Just not for the coach of the New Orleans Saints.

I think it is a little crowd playing with "plain bad" but gave some good overall points.

It's kinda a big blip on the radar right now. It might fade away and be nothing and it work out all the better for his family and him. It may be the precursor of bigger negative issues to come. Way early to make definitive judgment tho.

I'm ready to move on to talking draft and turn this into more boobies.

Let me point out several things here:

A) Stop splitting hairs between NOLA and Mandeville. That point is meaningless. The saints practice facility isn't even in NOLA by your argument. Mandeville is NOLA area.

B) This doesn't mean Payton is leaving, is planning on leaving or anything else. What it does do is possibly open the door to other future avenues that may now be a little bit more appealing.

C) You can argue all you want but it begins a disconnect with the fans and city. Someone brought up the nagin comparison. Whether he can still "do his job", yeah sure he can. But it comes with a stinch of hypocrisy in doing so. Swaying free agents to come play ball here, many uproot their families in these type of career decisions but it doesn't come off as well when your coach has one foot in the city and one foot out.

D) The relations of a football coach with a franchise is more than just doing a job as Coach for Benson as an employee. Their is a semblance of a political figure comparison meaning it comes with a great deal of public criticism and PR relations involved. His commitment to the city just dropped a notch no matter how you try to slice and dice it. Him keeping his house is frankly a PR move at this point. ITs never been said how long he's keeping it or what alternative reasons he may have for keeping the house.

E) The Jerry Jones factor. He's a snake and will try to steal our coach when given the opportunity. HE has the means to outbid for Payton's services all the while Payton's life could be that much better if he lived in Dallas fulltime.

F) Payton's ego does worry me. He does have that complex about him. Many writers and all have talked about it. I know he enjoys coaching our franchise and isn't looking to leave but coaching the cowboys with full reigns from jerry jones in the big D could potential scratch an itch Payton has that staying in New Orleans doesn't provide.

G) People are bringing up a Dungy and Cowher comparisons as if it helps your case. Yes they had success coaching there but it all lead to premature resignations of their tenure with the franchise than what they could have stayed for. YEs they haven't gotten other NFL jobs but bottom line is they didn't stay with the franchise for what they could have.

H) My thoughts aren't that Payton is stabbing the city in the back or anything or even that he has current PLANS on what he wants to do in the future. But what this does mean is that Payton has only 2 years left on his coaching deal. A coaching deal that may be pretty tough to extend with benson's pockets and payton's success and ego. It would have been a lot better if this news came with an announcement of an extension. It didn't. The bottom line at this point in time is that it slightly opens the cracks elsewhere long term. It slightly weakens his relationship with the city. Especially if he hits rocky patches.

I)Last thing I want to touch on is, Yes Payton and his wife have a right to choose where they want to live and where they want their kids to grow up. Sure they have the means to live in beverly fricking hills. But lets not forget how they developed the means to do so mainly. It came with the success of our city. They strength and resolve of our fans. It came with the blood, sweat, and tears he and his family shed with our franchise, our city, our city region. Yes, they can choose to live however they want, but I think the fans have the right to acknowledge a slight disconnect when they make such decisions.

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