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re: Pat yasinkas analysis of the NFC south draft
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:00 pm to VOR
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:00 pm to VOR
This is the only reasonable discussion I've been able to have on it. The brain trust that believes SP can do no wrong and are in denial about our D and draft record since 09 jumped up my arse defending the pick when they know deep down they don't like it either. Ironically the last time I bitched this much is when we took Dante stallworth when Ed reed was on the board. fricking haslett and his 40 times.
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:03 pm to Kafka
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if you keep a sinkas as a pet and it gets nervous, you can calm it down if you pat yasinkas
That's some funny shite!!!
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:04 pm to DelU249
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The brain trust that believes SP can do no wrong and are in denial about our D
Who's that?
Are you putting out straw dogs?
So what your saying is that because folks disagree that the Saints blew the pick vs we played it safe we are in denial about the defense?
WOW.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:08 pm to goatmilker
Disagreein is one thing. Shutting down any discussion on it is another. just look at the board, UDFAs generate more discussion because no one wants to talk about it. Most people are probably disappointed but convince themselves otherwise. Countless, "I'm starting to come around" posts
just look at the board, UDFAs generate more discussion because no one wants to talk about it. Most people are probably disappointed but convince themselves otherwise. Countless, "I'm starting to come around" postsPosted on 4/28/13 at 1:11 pm to DelU249
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Great talent will elevate a unit. There is no justification for taking KV over JJ. Pass rushers are a premium. We're transitioning, we have not one proven guy, and we were historically dreadful. Where do we begin? Safety with a top 5 talent pass rusher in the board. This is why our defense sucks and why it will continue to suck.
With a top 5 mock drafter/fan pass rusher on the board. Like I said before the draft countless times, just because some stupid blogger has JJ going to the saints doesn't even indicate we have interest in the guy.
We were historically dreadful in a completely different system. In a similar system we were middle of the road(with worse players than we presently have on roster).
I will bet that our top pass rushing linebacker this year has more sacks than JJ does.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:13 pm to DelU249
The only people who agree with you are the STards......and now Pat.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:14 pm to DelU249
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This is the only reasonable discussion I've been able to have on it. The brain trust that believes SP can do no wrong and are in denial about our D and draft record since 09 jumped up my arse defending the pick when they know deep down they don't like it either. Ironically the last time I bitched this much is when we took Dante stallworth when Ed reed was on the board. fricking haslett and his 40 times.
I think I was just surprised at how extreme some of the negative reaction was by those who preferred Jones. Of course, I had my doubts about Jones in the first place (although I freely admit he could turn out to be a stud in the NFL, especially under LeBeau). Like I said, KV seems to be a safe pick and should contribute right away. If Galette, Butler, and company along with the 3-4 don't pan out, then I guess we're fricked for another year.
Yeah, Reed may have been a better choice.
But, dude, I have a little more faith in the current regime. Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:15 pm to DelU249
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Countless, "I'm starting to come around" posts
Well, I kind of doubt we can petition the league for a "do over", so . . .
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:16 pm to DelU249
The 1st round pick is always the most debated simply because of its perceived importance and because by the time of the draft they have been vetted more than Sarah Palin
Always happens always will.
To be totaly honest when we made the pic( i had JJ too) I had2 reactions: 1 Was Wow...the Saints must have serious concerns on this guy.
2. The board is gonna blow up over this.
Always happens always will.
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Most people are probably disappointed but convince themselves otherwise
To be totaly honest when we made the pic( i had JJ too) I had2 reactions: 1 Was Wow...the Saints must have serious concerns on this guy.
2. The board is gonna blow up over this.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:16 pm to VOR
Reid also had the benefit of playing on a defense where 8 guys were drafted in the top 5 rounds this year in a conference with much less aggressive passing/offenses.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:17 pm to St Augustine
I agree about the value of a pass rush, and that the Saints defensive personnel have been dreadful, one fact remains:
If we had a safety that could have held Vernon Davis to....say.....150 yards, the Saints win a second Super Bowl or at least play in it.
Same for 10. We have a safety who can cover John FREAKING Carlson and not get suckered in by his flops, who knows what might have happened that year? They could have beaten the Bears and then get ANOTHER NFC Championship at home after the Falcons choked.
If we had a safety that could have held Vernon Davis to....say.....150 yards, the Saints win a second Super Bowl or at least play in it.
Same for 10. We have a safety who can cover John FREAKING Carlson and not get suckered in by his flops, who knows what might have happened that year? They could have beaten the Bears and then get ANOTHER NFC Championship at home after the Falcons choked.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:19 pm to St Augustine
Didn't address the point at all. That's fine, I'm glad people are excited and I really hope RR can make the unit significantly better, but pass rushers will always be more valuable unless they're a scrub.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:20 pm to VOR
I felt like the duke brothers in trading places
"Turn the machines back on!"
"Turn the machines back on!"
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:21 pm to DelU249
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:23 pm to St Augustine
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I will bet that our top pass rushing linebacker this year has more sacks than JJ does.
That's a bold prediction. Putting JJ against the field is weak but I'd take that bet.
Our LBs will too tired to rush the passer after the first quarter. Making all those tackles 5 yards from scrimmage wears on you.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:24 pm to goatmilker
I was at a nice restaurant in New Brunswick. I yelled "what!?" Everyone looked at me and went back to their business.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:26 pm to St Augustine
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I will bet that our top pass rushing linebacker this year has more sacks than JJ does.
3 unproven guys versus a highly touted prospect who dominated the nations best conference.
ill take that betPosted on 4/28/13 at 1:27 pm to adono
How about this youthful new to the team LB core
Butler OLB Lofton ILB Reddick ILB Chase Thomas OLB
Butler OLB Lofton ILB Reddick ILB Chase Thomas OLB
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:28 pm to DelU249
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I will bet that our top pass rushing linebacker this year has more sacks than JJ does.
3 unproven guys versus a highly touted prospect who dominated the nations best conference. ill take that bet
yeah, i'm not even a jones fan and i don't think i'd offer that bet. probably wouldn't bet either way at this point in the preseason.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:28 pm to DelU249
JJ is NOT a proven NFL player either my friend.
If his head falls off do we still win?
If his head falls off do we still win?
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 1:29 pm
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