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re: Meateye's Latest Saints 3 round Mock Draft (With Trades)

Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:23 am to
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30162 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:23 am to
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I like Lockett but I'm not sure SP wants any more small receivers


Somebody is going to scoop Lockett up in the late 3rd and he'll be a steal.

There are few guys of his talent and character in the entire draft this year.

We need receivers and playmakers.... and he is that.

He will be successful somewhere.
Posted by shmashmortion
Member since Feb 2011
464 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:15 am to
Excellent work. The only thing I don't see is the jets picking Kevin white. With Marshall and decker, they have two large, outside receivers.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:32 am to
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So our pick is worth 600, their 2 are worth 530 & 86 adding up to 616. Which actually puts us getting the better of the deal.


That might be, but the fifth year option is a pretty big deal when dealing with positions that usually take some time to develop (i.e. QB and CB).

You are most probably correct though; I don't expect the team to use both 1st rounders.
Posted by Bengaltyger4life
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:56 am to
Why would the Saints trade their first round talent (Jimmy G.) and starter for another teams first round pick only to then trade it to the jets and move back into the second round and pick up another fourth round pick. The 31st pick could land them another starter on defense like a CB or a LB. Best pick the saints can make is too take Bud Dupree at 13 and then at pick 31 select Benard Mckinney. Another option is to select Dupree at 13 and make a deal with Cleveland to select at pick 19 to get either Beasley or Marcus Peters because Trae Waynes might be off the board.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:35 am to
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Why would the Saints trade their first round talent (Jimmy G.) and starter for another teams first round pick only to then trade it to the jets and move back into the second round and pick up another fourth round pick.


1. We also got a pro bowl starting center.
2. We are only moving back 6 spots and gaining a 4th round which right now we don't have and most of the great players are now found in the 3rd through 5th rounds.
That makes us getting 3 possible starters for one Jimmy, retard.

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The 31st pick could land them another starter on defense like a CB or a LB.


You can get those 6 picks later also.

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Best pick the saints can make is too take Bud Dupree at 13 and then at pick 31 select Benard Mckinney.


Umm no, no its not


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Another option is to select Dupree at 13 and make a deal with Cleveland to select at pick 19 to get either Beasley or Marcus Peters because Trae Waynes might be off the board.


That's even worse than you first option. So lose a pick instead of gaining one? You're an idiot.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 8:36 am
Posted by KISS ARMY
Da parish brah
Member since Jan 2015
427 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:47 am to
Would like Shelton or Collins at 13. 31 we grab Kendrick, Anthony or Marcus Peters, if he checks out. Wouldn't mind a trade down with either first round pick to acquire a 3 or 4th rounder
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:08 am to
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1. We also got a pro bowl starting center.


yeah, it's easy to forget we got "Mad" Max Unger in the trade.

I wonder what Unger's trade value is? What would it have taken with just picks to get him (I know the Seahawks wouldn't have traded him just for picks, but let's assume they would)?

My guess is a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29369 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am to
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I wonder if the Titans put Mett on the market in your scenario

In my most non-homer voice possible, I would be completely okay with Mett sitting behind Drew for a couple of years. I think he's got the tools to be a very good QB in the NFL. He played pretty well before getting hurt with no receivers and a shitty O-Line.

I know, :inb4LSU.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:16 pm to
I'm not using homer glasses either. He played well on a bad team as a rookie. I think he's earned the chance to start and would draw a good bit of interest if the Titans do go Mariota.

I would certainly be ok with trading for him.
Posted by Bengaltyger4life
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 4:01 pm to
you would get another 4th round pick which they probably will trade away. Please list all 4th round picks that have gone on and had pro bowl careers and probably hall of fame careers in the last 10 to 15 years for the saints. Your pick Beasley is a practice and workout warrior and many scounts are wondering if his ability will translate to the playing field. Many players practice well but dont have a clue what they are doing during the game. What most are looking for is production on the field in college and can they excel in the NFL. Yes we got a starter for a starter and also got another first round pick. Why trade out of the 31st slot to move back and pick up another 2nd round pick and a potential 4th round pick. (Show the system and point system you used based on NFL value system that trading out of the first round will automatically equate to a 2nd and 4th round pick). what i am suggesting is that the saints need to keep both first round picks and get players that will contribute to the team. The Saints 2nd round pick last year has not developed as of yet and i cant remember who was selected in the 4th round. From your draft the Cleveland Browns probably would consider drafting the player the saints want and the saints take their player at pick 31 and they complete the trade after the draft i.e. (giants and san diego for rivers and manning. An extra pick wouild be nice but considering the cap space and budget is your scenario in the saints best interest. What makes you think the Jets want to move back into the 1st round for another lineman.
[/quote] That makes us getting 3 possible starters for one Jimmy, retard. seems like your are counting your chics before the eggs hatch.
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That's even worse than you first option. So lose a pick instead of gaining one? You're an idiot.
you do realize the saints have 9 picks which i doubt they really want. i am willing to say they trade some of those picks to move in the draft in the 2nd and 3rd round, most teams with multiple picks like this usually dont want them, fool.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 4:18 pm to
Seriously? All that crap you just wrote was all stupid man.

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(Show the system and point system you used based on NFL value system that trading out of the first round will automatically equate to a 2nd and 4th round pick).


I posted the value chart on the 2nd page, go back and look.

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what i am suggesting is that the saints need to keep both first round picks and get players that will contribute to the team.


The trade I had up there was moving back 6 damn spots!! you act like the difference in the 31 and the 37 is like Ray Lewis and Stephen Johnson.


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The Saints 2nd round pick last year has not developed


What the hell does that have to do with anything? They knew he was a project when they drafted him. We also drafted Johnathan Sullivan in the first round years back, how did that work out?

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Please list all 4th round picks that have gone on and had pro bowl careers


Jahri Evans ring a bell?


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What makes you think the Jets want to move back into the 1st round for another lineman.


They are moving back into the first for a QB!!!

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you do realize the saints have 9 picks which i doubt they really want. i am willing to say they trade some of those picks to move in the draft in the 2nd and 3rd round, most teams with multiple picks like this usually dont want them, fool.




They did all the trades to bring in new blood. You do realize Jimmy was drafted in the 3rd round right? And Colston was drafted in the 7th and Pierre was an UDFA. Are you 12? Stop coming in here like you know what you are talking about when in reality you have no fricking clue!



oh and this...

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From your draft the Cleveland Browns probably would consider drafting the player the saints want and the saints take their player at pick 31 and they complete the trade after the draft i.e.



That would do the same damn thing my trade did, so what in your head makes you think this is better.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 4:41 pm to
Oh and just because I put stuff on a mock draft does not mean its what I want to happen, its the stuff I think will happen, and my mock changes about 5 to 8 times before the draft after things with each team changes, which changes the direction they are going in the draft.
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10049 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:08 pm to
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I'll bet you $100 that Mariota goes #2 in the draft and Bryce Petty goes in the 1st round


Not unless Al Davis comes back from the dead to draft for Oakland.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:45 pm to
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Not unless Al Davis comes back from the dead to draft for Oakland.


Oakland picks 4th.......
Posted by Bengaltyger4life
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:47 pm to
draft position of need first then depth later in the draft. If a player is there and is high on your board then take him. There are some talented players that have been selected in the mid to late rounds but there are a lot that dont make it as well. I would draft a LB at 13 and a CB at 31 and a guard in the second and then WR and then other areas of need. Hopefully the draft goes well for the saints and the fan are happy with selections.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:13 pm to
Hey guess what?

















































This guy was drafted in the 2nd round...........








Posted by Bengaltyger4life
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:13 am to
guess what the saints didnt draft either of those players. You still only named Jahri Evans and Colston in the last 15 years by the SAINTS that have gone on to have pro bowl careers. Pierre has had a good career but was a UDFA which doesnt support your mock draft of trading out of the first round and getting a second and another fourth round pick. this is getting old, it doesnt matter. i hope they make the best decisions on draft day to build a championship team.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:23 am to
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guess what the saints didnt draft either of those players. You still only named Jahri Evans and Colston in the last 15 years by the SAINTS that have gone on to have pro bowl careers. Pierre has had a good career but was a UDFA which doesnt support your mock draft of trading out of the first round and getting a second and another fourth round pick.


Because I dont feel like going to the trouble to show you how stupid you are being. Just know this we only 4 players on our team that are 1st round picks. Cam jordan, Mark Ingram, Kenny Vaccaro and Brandin Cooks. the rest of the team are all mid to late round picks. You are a moron if you think you can only get stars in the 1st round.


And we don't have a 4th round pick right now moron. Get the frick off the Saints page, you don't even know what the hell you are talking about.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14097 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:25 am to
I just read that the Vikings are actually high on La'el Collins now and are starting to target him. So now the #10 pick and #11 draft pick are very high on him. Doesn't bode too well for us.

Actually it was just McShay's opinion...which is kind of worthless...but here's the page LINK
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:29 am
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:31 am to
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I just read that the Vikings are actually high on La'el Collins now and are starting to target him. So now the #10 pick and #11 draft pick are very high on him. Doesn't bode too well for us.

Actually it was just McShay's opinion...which is kind of worthless...but here's the page LINK


Yeah i saw that yesterday. My good friend is a Giants fan and follows them super close and he said they are higher on Collins than Scherff. so he may go 9th
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