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If you were guaranteed to get Mahomes in Joe Burrow would you trade up to #1

Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:00 am
Posted by tigerintexas777
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:00 am
Having seen the impact a 24 year old has made on one organization in 2 years, being the league MVP and winning the Super Bowl - would you do whatever it takes to get a player of that caliber knowing Burrow’s skill set already?

Don’t say the Saints couldn’t trade up for it. They might have to give up Kamara, Hill, or however many 1sts and future 1sts it would take. Nothing is impossible

Only 50% of first round picks pan out anyway, so trading 2-3 first round picks, you’d maybe get production on 1-2 out of the 3 anyway

Do you sell the farm knowing you could get a generational type talent?

We’ve been to 1 super bowl and have seen the ceiling of the formula the saints are running now. Few bad calls here or there but they haven’t lived up to expectations and just lost to Kurt Cousins in the Super Dome....

Maybe even resign Brees another year and let Burrow learn under him, like Mahomes did with Alex Smith

Yea this is another Burrow thread, downvote away — when you see a generational talent who already knows offensive concepts and schemes that the Saints run, it’s a no brainer



Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:35 am to
Such an original thread
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
1312 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:46 am to
Such an original reply
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:00 am to
Kid is a winner. Anyone that doesnt see it is blind.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:03 am to
For a mahomes like talent? Of course. Different type of QBs though.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 6:05 am
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:23 am to
They are pretty similar I think, Burrow is more accurate while Mahomes has a stronger arm. Both extend plays with their feet really well. Both have what it takes upstairs, learning concepts and defenses. Andy Reid said Mahomes is the smartest QB he’s coached and just sees things that people normally don’t. Burrow is the same way, took him 2 drives against Clemson to figure out Venables and then the offense was cookin

Similar body build, Mahomes 6’ 3”, Burrow 6’ 4”

Both have great pocket awareness, can keep their eyes downfield

Burrow is gonna be a real good one
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Don’t say the Saints couldn’t trade up for it. They might have to give up Kamara, Hill, or however many 1sts and future 1sts it would take. Nothing is impossible


No, because if he’s a Mahomes type talent and everybody knows it, the ransom it would take to trade up from #24 to #1 would be unprecedented and would likely end up ruining Burrow’s career (although he would likely leaving as soon as his rookie contract was up) as well as devastating the team roster for at minimum the next decade.

There is not a QB on earth who can be successful without an offensive line and receivers, and that’s what the situation would be. Your question is retarded, just like the 100 similar threads before it.
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:42 am to
Your cheeks are still sore from 46-41 I see... no such thing as a Saints fan that roots for Bama. Sickening if you live in Louisiana also.

You act like the saints would automatically trade every starter they have to move to #1. By your logic we must get rid of Ram, Mike T, Kamara, Lattimore, Rankins, Davis, and Cook

I guarantee you saints could trade their 1st, trade Kamara for a 1st from let’s say the dolphins, and literally give 2-3 more firsts to the bengals for the next few years.
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
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2500 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:48 am to
Your thread is retarded OP. Deal with it.
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:53 am to





Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:56 am to
Actually your fandom is making a huge assumption. It’s more likely that a #1 overall QB doesn’t go to or win a super bowl, much less become Patrick Mahomes.

QBs who went #1 overall since 1990: David Carr, Sam Bradford, Eli Manning, Jamarcus Russell, Peyton Manning, Tim Couch, Alex Smith, Jared Goff, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, Matthew Stafford, Carson Palmer, Drew Bledsoe, Andrew Luck, Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield.

Compared to; Tom Brady #199, Drew Brees #32, Aaron Rodgers #24, Ben Roethlisberger #11, Brett Favre #33, Patrick Mahomes #10, Russell Wilson #75, Kurt Warner (undrafted) and Carson Wentz #2
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:59 am to
Sorry that I don’t want to ruin the franchise to make the biggest trade up in NFL history to support your homer pick

And what if he doesn’t work out? Maybe he becomes the next Andrew Luck. Then what? We would have no QB, no weapons, a depleted line and no draft picks for a decade?! Absolutely asinine
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
1312 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:02 am to
That’s because of the obvious train wrecks that pick number 1. Burrow won’t win a super bowl for the bengals, they are a terrible franchise and outside of Joe Mixon and Tyler Boyd they don’t have many weapons.

Mahomes and all the QB’s you mentioned were lucky to flourish with a competing organization with surrounding talent

Saints have said talent and wouldn’t have to rebuild like the bengals.

Mahomes on the bengals wins 8-9 games, same with Burrow
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:07 am to
If it doesn’t work out then it doesn’t work out. We’d build around Burrow if needed

Same way when brees came to nola after they said he’d never play football again, it worked out

The franchise is in a rut. Whether they win 10-12 games or win 4-6 games, not much different, they aren’t winning Super Bowls now and the recipe they are trying has failed 3 straight years miserably... most recently to Kurt Cousins in the Dome

What if it did work out and it was all worth it? If it didn’t, it’s not like we are on the doorstep of the Super Bowl.
Ravens, 49ers, packers, chiefs, Seahawks, Dallas, Philly - all primed better for the future
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:19 am to
Cincinnati ain’t giving Burrow up. Print the jerseys.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:37 am to
quote:

Compared to; Tom Brady #199, Drew Brees #32, Aaron Rodgers #24, Ben Roethlisberger #11, Brett Favre #33, Patrick Mahomes #10, Russell Wilson #75, Kurt Warner (undrafted) and Nick Foles #88


FIFY
Posted by whodat22
Member since Sep 2014
881 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:40 am to
No one compared burrow to mahommes 2 years ago now he has 1 good college season and he's as good as an NFL MVP and super bowl winner. Got it
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7969 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:42 am to
I think he'll be better than Mahomes.

No, I'm not kidding.
Bookmark it.
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
1312 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:28 am to
Yea and no one outside of Texas tech and KC knew how good Mahomes was gonna be either... Mahomes for what it’s worth was so good in college and lit LSU up in the Texas bowl, even though they got stomped

Burrow didn’t just have 1 “good” season, he had a great season - literally the best for any QB in the history of college football

Why he didn’t have it the year before was because of the anemic offense LSU was running

QB’s not named Trevor Lawrence, typically only have 1 maybe 2 good years in college
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39978 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:46 am to
quote:

If you were guaranteed to get Mahomes in Joe Burrow would you trade up to #1


You do whatever it takes.

People forget KC was in the same space as us 3 years ago:

Aging QB, perennial regular season wins, early playoff exits.

In three years time they now have won a SB and I can make an argument they can win the next 2.
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