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re: Franchised Brees

Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:32 pm to
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I think a big road block is Brees "image" that he wants to project. The Saints know he wont frick with that by holding out in a season where theyve had all this controversy and theres a chance of playing the superbowl at home



Agreed. Maybe Gronk banging pornstars is for his own benefit?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:33 pm to
No they changed it in the new CBA

Its the average of the past 5 years franchise tags which cheapens it by a couple million
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:35 pm to
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Agreed. Maybe Gronk banging pornstars is for his own benefit?


he can hold out for a lifetime supply of STD medicine
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22201 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:37 pm to
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you are NOT paid according to the current year's top 5 anymore, it involves multiple past years and is lower than the franchise tag used to be.
Players were so dumb for agreeing to this
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:38 pm to


They see me rollin'...

Seriously, I am willing to look past so much because he's an extreme talent.
Posted by doubleO7
the free clinic
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:38 pm to
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Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:39 pm to
Sho nuff.

Honestly, agreeing to a franchise option is terrible to begin with.

I can't wait til someone quits football over it after being tagged multiple seasons.
Posted by arobbi3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
1483 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:39 pm to
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even with the emergence of Jimmy Graham, I agree. Even though he has been nicked up over the years, he has been so consistent


I'm going to hate seeing Colston leave, but it's not huge. Graham and Colston were 1a and 1b in this offense and the saints didn't even slow down on offense in the games he missed. We will have to draft a receiver relatively early now though.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4252 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:40 pm to
I just pray there is some master plan behind this. We are usually great with contracts and decision making.

I'm not that educated about the yearly salary cap, but to me I would think they need to raise it a decent bit. Not anything ridiculous, but with every great position player getting a contract that is a step above the last great player, it doesn't leave much room. Simple inflation right? Am I far off with this?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:45 pm to
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Am I far off with this?


Yes and no.

The salary cap is designed to keep prices down, and in a baseball style environment, Peyton, Brady, and Brees would be making at least 30 million a year, if not more. That being said, if you keep raising it by a ton of money, it loses its effect. Teams also tend to backload contracts so they can cut the player and only be on the hook for guaranteed money. It has a decent increase next year if I remember correctly.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:48 pm to
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Red rover, red rover - send nicks on over... To Atlanta!
:)



Walk away, Double. I would cry.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115634 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:49 pm to
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Seriously, I am willing to look past so much because he's an extreme talent.


No doubt. Cant stay mad at a guy when hes catching 20 TD passes

Btw Is there anyway we can put a bounty on Bernard Pollard? I feel like nobody would get in trouble for that. Eye for an Eye type situation
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84359 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:50 pm to
I can understand the front office's predicament. 23 mil a season for the next three seasons is just pushing it. Hopefully something can be worked out.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:50 pm to
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Btw Is there anyway we can put a bounty on Bernard Pollard? I feel like nobody would get in trouble for that. Eye for an Eye type situation





This guy first.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:53 pm to
I would let Drew walk if he had to have that much money. The saints are going screwing themselves if they do it.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8454 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:53 pm to
Someone with more knowledge than me please answer this...

If Brees is FT this year and risks possible FT the year after... the value of both of those years is substantially less than if he signed a K for less than the 23mm he was asking. To me, that is not good business.

Why not negotiate the 18mm deal...now he's gauranteed to be throwing the difference of the FT and the Saints offer out the window. That's 4mm for possibly 2 yrs...that's almost stupid
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
11386 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:54 pm to
I'm still baffled why this deal wasn't done 2 years ago
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:54 pm to
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I would let Drew walk if he had to have that much money. The saints are going screwing themselves if they do it.



Posted by simbo
Member since Jun 2011
1664 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:55 pm to
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If he's really demanding $25 million this was inevitable


He's not demenading $25 mil. I don't know what's so hard about this shite. Brees basically wants Mannings contract.....$23 mil per year for the first three years with an average of $18 mil per for the lifetime of the contract.

That's Mannings contract and that's what he wants. People saying he wants $25 mil, $30 mil just isn't true. Brees wants what another top QB has already gotten....is he wrong for that? Well that's for you to decide but saying he wants something that's crazy money over anyone else is just not correct and plain wrong.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:56 pm to
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Why not negotiate the 18mm deal...now he's gauranteed to be throwing the difference of the FT and the Saints offer out the window. That's 4mm for possibly 2 yrs...that's almost stupid



IF the Saints had the balls to frick over Drew Brees by tagging him two straight years, the city would revolt and Brees would hold out and go elsewhere, you realize that right?
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