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falconry88
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re: Falcons officially announce Fontenot as their GM
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This is the way I look at it. I work for a company that is based in Baton Rouge, and I am from Eunice. Baton Rouge population is 221,599 and Eunice is 9,989.
If we had an opportunity for a management position and they had a rule stating that they had to interview candidates from Eunice or other smaller towns simply because we had a population of less than 10k, I'd take that as an insult because they are basically saying all those simple country Eunice folk know is how to farm rice & crawfish or work offshore.


While i don't disagree that notions like this and the Rooney rule are...ham-fisted executions of an idea at best, i guess it's notable that they are trying to address what is a sort of odd issue.

To your point: Using that same analogy - Say the company based in Baton Rouge had, for their entire 50+ year history, only really hired candidates from the local BR area (whether for convenience, proximity, cost - regardless) and had never even LOOKED in Eunice for candidates. Over those 5 decades, perhaps it wasn't the case that the higher-ups thought that people in Eunice were simple country folk - maybe they'd just always only been looking in BR because that's where they were located, they'd always had a supply of applicants, whatever the case - but could the assumption be made that they were hiring the best candidates in all of Louisiana even though they never looked in Eunice until they had a reason to do so?

Going a step further....without having a reason to do so, in that scenario, why would they even look to Eunice for candidates, when they had been finding managers just fine in BR for the last 50 years? That's kinda what the NFL is dealing with. This idea that when openings happen, searches automatically include ALL qualified candidates rather than orgs just looking in the same places they've looked before more or less for the last century or so.

Your choosing to take that kind of action as an insult speaks to being fortunate enough to not really have to worry about being overlooked under normal circumstances. While the NFL should be a meritocracy and the whole 'picks for blacks' thing has so many issues (like, is it all minorities? What if a coach is only like 1/6th Native American or something - does that count? But i digress ), it seems like they're trying to correct for a *systemic* issue, which is gonna lead to some dumb efforts nearly every time.


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re: Falcons officially announce Fontenot as their GM
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This is the way I look at it. I work for a company that is based in Baton Rouge, and I am from Eunice. Baton Rouge population is 221,599 and Eunice is 9,989.
If we had an opportunity for a management position and they had a rule stating that they had to interview candidates from Eunice or other smaller towns simply because we had a population of less than 10k, I'd take that as an insult because they are basically saying all those simple country Eunice folk know is how to farm rice & crawfish or work offshore.

Again I'm never against interviewing anyone, but only if they are a legit candidate.


The Rooney Rule and the draft pick compensation are related, but are different issues.

The Rooney Rule is simply about trying to get minorities a chance to get interviewed. If nothing else, it gets them the chance to learn about other organizations, and gets them practicing in interviewing for HC/GM positions.

The draft pick thing is meant to encourage teams to develop minority candidates. I think it's important to note that the team who signs the minority candidate doesn't gain or lose anything in this deal. So the Saints, as the former employer, get 2 picks, but the Falcons don't get any picks, nor do they give up any picks.

In this instance, Fontenot has been developed long before the NFL dangled any incentive. I actually think it's kind of funny that the Saints will get two draft picks here.

Terry Fontenot would have gotten looks, and would have eventually gotten a GM job, even if the draft pick thing wasn't a thing, and even if the Rooney Rule isn't a thing. If anything, one can argue that Fontenot getting the GM job is evidence that these programs aren't actually needed by the NFL.


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Think of it this way. Hypothetically, if the Chargers had Brandon Staley and Eric Bieniemy ranked dead even after conducting multiple interviews with each candidate, the deciding factor would probably be "if we hire Bieniemy, we're giving a division rival (KC) multiple comp picks over the next few drafts, so we're going with Staley".


The Falcons could have hired other candidates, they hired Fontenot knowing they were giving two picks to their hated rival.

I mean, this is a pretty damn good approval of the Saints organization.


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re: Falcons officially announce Fontenot as their GM
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The Falcons could have hired other candidates, they hired Fontenot knowing they were giving two picks to their hated rival.

I mean, this is a pretty damn good approval of the Saints organization.


Well, yeah. Y'all have been extraordinarily well run for the last 4 years. IMO, this also tells me that we had Fontenot head and shoulders above any other GM candidate. I don't think that was much of a secret though.


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