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ESPN’s Matt Bowen picks Saints as best landing spot for Ndamukong Suh
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:00 pm
I'm starting to warm up to this for the right price. Sheldon Richardson, Suh, & Larry Ogunjobi seem like the 3 best remaining DT's for us. This article also says we have about 10.6 mil in cap space, so we have plenty enough money to sign a DT & even another big addition if we want to.
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Who would have guessed that the New Orleans Saints would end up being one of the bigger players in the latest waves of free agency? Given how slowly the Saints moved on from their ill-advised pursuit of Deshaun Watson and the twin departures of Marcus Williams and Terron Armstead, you’d be forgiven for keeping low expectations as we moved further into the offseason.
That narrative’s since gone up in smoke with the big-time additions of Tyrann Mathieu, Jarvis Landry, and some bold moves in the 2022 NFL draft. And New Orleans remains an attractive free agent destination to ESPN staff writer Matt Bowen, who picked the Saints as an ideal fit for defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh — his highest-ranked player still available. Suh racked up 43 quarterback pressures last season, per Pro Football Focus charting, which would have outpaced every single Saints defender not named Cameron Jordan. He’s a player with a nasty reputation in the NFL, but Suh only drew 4 penalty flags for 30 yards in 2021 (3 of them coming pre-snap for neutral zone infractions and an offsides foul).
So, sure, Suh would be a good get for New Orleans, even after turning 35 back in January. Here’s what Bowen had to say about the match:
“I originally considered matching the veteran defensive tackle back with the Buccaneers, but with Tampa Bay signing Akiem Hicks, we should expect Suh to land with another contender during camp. Suh had six sacks in 2021 and put some good tape out there in the postseason.
“I really like the idea of Suh playing in Dennis Allen’s defense. Even in a rotational role, Suh can still create disruption, command two in protection and get home to the quarterback in schemed fronts. He’d be effective in New Orleans with interior stunts and loops that create A-gap pressure and eliminate the quarterback’s ability to climb the pocket. And you need that when you see Tom Brady twice a season.”
Suh would add a lot to New Orleans’ interior rotation, giving the team a true starter next to David Onyemata that they haven’t enjoyed since Sheldon Rankins totaled 600-plus snaps back in 2018 (the 2016 first rounder was limited by injuries in 2019 and 2020 before leaving in free agency last year). Right now, Onyemata is standing head-and-shoulders above a group that includes backups like Shy Tuttle, Albert Huggins, and Malcolm Roach plus a couple of veteran-minimum signings in Kentavius Street and Jaleel Johnson, as well as a late-round draft pick in Air Force product Jordan Jackson. That collection of players shouldn’t be much of a hurdle to signing Suh.
And New Orleans does have the money to go get him. The Saints are under the salary cap by about $10.6 million, and they could get creative in signing a high-end player like Suh to keep his 2022 cap hit modest. Hicks going to Tampa Bay (ironically taking Suh’s roster spot in the process) provides a nice blueprint: he signed a one-year, $8 million deal largely made up of a $6.1 million signing bonus, with four void years spreading out the accounting and bring his immediate cap hit to just over $2.3 million. It’s a move right out of New Orleans’ own playbook, and it’s one they could use in going after Suh.
You’ve just got to wonder if the appetite is there. The Saints had opportunities to add a high-profile defensive tackle earlier in free agency and through the draft but went with budget-conscious moves instead. It’s very possible that they see the position as more of a tertiary need and expect the position coach Ryan Nielsen (recently promoted to co-defensive coordinator) to keep elevating talent in the group. Signing Suh to a one-year deal would mean he and Onyemata would both be headed for free agency in 2023, with a lot of dead money left behind should they not be re-signed. It’s risky, but that’s every day in the NFL. The Saints have shown us they have a plan and are willing to roll the dice a bit to accomplish it. Maybe Suh can factor into that vision, too.
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Who would have guessed that the New Orleans Saints would end up being one of the bigger players in the latest waves of free agency? Given how slowly the Saints moved on from their ill-advised pursuit of Deshaun Watson and the twin departures of Marcus Williams and Terron Armstead, you’d be forgiven for keeping low expectations as we moved further into the offseason.
That narrative’s since gone up in smoke with the big-time additions of Tyrann Mathieu, Jarvis Landry, and some bold moves in the 2022 NFL draft. And New Orleans remains an attractive free agent destination to ESPN staff writer Matt Bowen, who picked the Saints as an ideal fit for defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh — his highest-ranked player still available. Suh racked up 43 quarterback pressures last season, per Pro Football Focus charting, which would have outpaced every single Saints defender not named Cameron Jordan. He’s a player with a nasty reputation in the NFL, but Suh only drew 4 penalty flags for 30 yards in 2021 (3 of them coming pre-snap for neutral zone infractions and an offsides foul).
So, sure, Suh would be a good get for New Orleans, even after turning 35 back in January. Here’s what Bowen had to say about the match:
“I originally considered matching the veteran defensive tackle back with the Buccaneers, but with Tampa Bay signing Akiem Hicks, we should expect Suh to land with another contender during camp. Suh had six sacks in 2021 and put some good tape out there in the postseason.
“I really like the idea of Suh playing in Dennis Allen’s defense. Even in a rotational role, Suh can still create disruption, command two in protection and get home to the quarterback in schemed fronts. He’d be effective in New Orleans with interior stunts and loops that create A-gap pressure and eliminate the quarterback’s ability to climb the pocket. And you need that when you see Tom Brady twice a season.”
Suh would add a lot to New Orleans’ interior rotation, giving the team a true starter next to David Onyemata that they haven’t enjoyed since Sheldon Rankins totaled 600-plus snaps back in 2018 (the 2016 first rounder was limited by injuries in 2019 and 2020 before leaving in free agency last year). Right now, Onyemata is standing head-and-shoulders above a group that includes backups like Shy Tuttle, Albert Huggins, and Malcolm Roach plus a couple of veteran-minimum signings in Kentavius Street and Jaleel Johnson, as well as a late-round draft pick in Air Force product Jordan Jackson. That collection of players shouldn’t be much of a hurdle to signing Suh.
And New Orleans does have the money to go get him. The Saints are under the salary cap by about $10.6 million, and they could get creative in signing a high-end player like Suh to keep his 2022 cap hit modest. Hicks going to Tampa Bay (ironically taking Suh’s roster spot in the process) provides a nice blueprint: he signed a one-year, $8 million deal largely made up of a $6.1 million signing bonus, with four void years spreading out the accounting and bring his immediate cap hit to just over $2.3 million. It’s a move right out of New Orleans’ own playbook, and it’s one they could use in going after Suh.
You’ve just got to wonder if the appetite is there. The Saints had opportunities to add a high-profile defensive tackle earlier in free agency and through the draft but went with budget-conscious moves instead. It’s very possible that they see the position as more of a tertiary need and expect the position coach Ryan Nielsen (recently promoted to co-defensive coordinator) to keep elevating talent in the group. Signing Suh to a one-year deal would mean he and Onyemata would both be headed for free agency in 2023, with a lot of dead money left behind should they not be re-signed. It’s risky, but that’s every day in the NFL. The Saints have shown us they have a plan and are willing to roll the dice a bit to accomplish it. Maybe Suh can factor into that vision, too.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:17 pm to GMoney2600
Hope that home he was purchasing in Metairie a few years back is still available 
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:20 pm to DJ3K
This is the year to sign him imo, b/c most people have written him off due to his age & he'll probably be very cheap.
Onyemata & Suh with Tuttle as a run stuffer looks pretty good on paper.
We also have a ton of guys to fight for that #4 DT spot. I bet 1 of these guys pans out
-Kentavius Street
-Jaleel Johnson
-Malcolm Roach
-Albert Huggins
-Jordan Jackson - Late round draft pick
-Josh Black - udfa rookie
I think Kentavius Street could be a very good rotational piece.
Onyemata & Suh with Tuttle as a run stuffer looks pretty good on paper.
We also have a ton of guys to fight for that #4 DT spot. I bet 1 of these guys pans out
-Kentavius Street
-Jaleel Johnson
-Malcolm Roach
-Albert Huggins
-Jordan Jackson - Late round draft pick
-Josh Black - udfa rookie
I think Kentavius Street could be a very good rotational piece.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:35 pm to goatmilker
I still think Tuttle would start over Suh. That's just to stop the run on 1st down & other obvious running downs though.
The cool thing is we could swap out Tuttle for Suh & not have to be positive that it's a passing down. We subbed out Tuttle for a DE on obvious passing downs last year, but with Suh...it doesn't have to be an obvious passing down, b/c he can stop the run on the interior.
We haven't had 2 pass rushing DT's since Rankins & Onyemata.
Who knows though...maybe Suh would start over Tuttle, but I think Allen likes Tuttle on 1st downs & obvious running situations.
The cool thing is we could swap out Tuttle for Suh & not have to be positive that it's a passing down. We subbed out Tuttle for a DE on obvious passing downs last year, but with Suh...it doesn't have to be an obvious passing down, b/c he can stop the run on the interior.
We haven't had 2 pass rushing DT's since Rankins & Onyemata.
Who knows though...maybe Suh would start over Tuttle, but I think Allen likes Tuttle on 1st downs & obvious running situations.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:12 pm to GMoney2600
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Suh racked up 43 quarterback pressures last season
I approve this message. Ill forward this to Loomis.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:29 am to GMoney2600
The guy is a piece of shite. And everyone here knows it. But I guess it’s ok if he’s on our team? frick that.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:53 am to SelaTiger
Good, we need a nasty defense!
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:48 am to SelaTiger
Yea. At least he will be our piece of shite. Hell he had more qb pressures than penalty yards against him.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:10 am to GMoney2600
I'm down. If you don't have an elite qb, you give your qb great weapons, check. You also need a great defense, and that defense has to be able to pressure the F out the qb; we already have a good defense and good pass rushers, but suh could make it even better.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:27 pm to GMoney2600
I wish they would have brought back Akiem Hicks.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:55 pm to tucoco
The Bucs had to eat a bunch of dead cap in the future to get him for cheap this year.
Still, he was a solid addition.
Still, he was a solid addition.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:56 pm to GMoney2600
I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:43 pm to GMoney2600
Y'all I never doubted we would get under the cap, but I think Mickey is an actual wizard. How did we get to a place where we made 2 big FA signings and still have money for 2 more?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:58 pm to GMoney2600
Tell that to the 40+ people that downvoted me when I posted this a few weeks ago. This forum is based on nothing more than "crowdthink".
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to BadatBourre
Things change. I didn't want him a few weeks ago. I changed my mind though.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:40 pm to StrongOffer
Because we were making room for Watson, & it didn't work out.
We had money to spend bc of that, & Loomis also refuses to overpay. I think Loomis has done a hell of a job.
Still have like 10.6 mil, & all we need are some depth pieces. Can't complain about Loomis this off-season imo.
We had money to spend bc of that, & Loomis also refuses to overpay. I think Loomis has done a hell of a job.
Still have like 10.6 mil, & all we need are some depth pieces. Can't complain about Loomis this off-season imo.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:56 pm to BadatBourre
quote:
This forum is based on nothing more than "crowdthink".
BadatBourre

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