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re: Chris Wells=Deuce

Posted on 4/1/09 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 3:50 pm to
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Wells has NOT proven that he is tough, can catch a pass, block, or has the heart and guts to run over people.





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Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 10:51 am to
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 10:59 am to
quote:

quote:
Wells has NOT proven that he is tough, can catch a pass, block, or has the heart and guts to run over people.






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I tell you, that was a great video. Besides his stiff arm, he seems to have pretty good field vision and can read his blocks. I'm not sure about the "catching a pass" but he looks like he'll be a helluva pro RB.
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 10:59 am to
I saw a shite ton of outside running in that vid. Not much "between the tackles."
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:02 am to
huh?

95% of the runs in that video start between the tackles. WTF are you looking at?
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:05 am to
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I saw a shite ton of outside running in that vid. Not much "between the tackles."


In the first 1:30, 5 of the 6 plays went b/w the tackles.
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:06 am to
looked like alot of reggie "bounce to the outside" to me.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:15 am to
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looked like alot of reggie "bounce to the outside" to me.




lol, it's not even close.

hitting a hole between the tackles and ending up near the sideline isnt the same as sprinting for the sideline before you even cross the line of scrimmage


another epic Saintard fail
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:20 am to
LE

I can agree with you that Wells is a great RB, but I think he might have durability issues.

what say you?

Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:28 am to
lurch, the biggest saint turd of all, i'm just frickin joking cause ya'll are all deep throating wells. yeah, he's a pretty damn good runner and has a lethal stiff arm.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:38 am to
he only missed 3 games the last 2 years. He missed none 2 years ago, all 3 came last year

i think he could be durable. He wouldnt have to carry it 30 times a game like he did at OSU. They loved to pound it with him, and frankly was all they had at RB.


he'd have Reggie and Pierre to take some carries away from him. It would also take more pressure off Reggie as just a pure RB, and get him into more of a utility role like he was as a rookie.

and of course it would give us a big between the tackles runner that can keep the clock running at the end of the game and hopefully give us some victories that eluded us last year because of that very reason.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:45 am to
good deal

I'm starting to like him more than Moreno, but his hard nosed style worries me a little bit. I'm not worried about past injuries...more about future injuries. I guess the three headed monster could help insure his longevity.

I still want a LB in the first but if they were to choose a RB I'm leaning towards Wells now.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:49 am to
dude, how many times do i have to say that the NUMBER 1 REASON WE LOST GAMES LATE WAS BECAUSE WE LET WING N A PRAYER BOMBS FLY ON US IN THE SECONDARY LIKE A 2 FOR 1 AT A FEMALE SHOE STORE!!! You can get all the 3 and 1 you want, but when you let a team score with 60 yard bombs raining down like heroshima, you'll never keep a late lead. Wells, Moreno, who the frick ever as a RB will not come in here and STOP THE DEEP BALL or pressure the QB to prevent time in the pocket. Just won't happen.

And don't give me that 4th quarter run the ball control the clock bullshite analogy. I don't care how great of a RB you are, you will not get every 3 down and short in every game for 16 games. The saints shut AP DOWN last year. So while Wells would be a good addition, I don't think that is where our first pick should be spent. I promise you, if we had Wells last year, we would still have not made the playoffs.
This post was edited on 4/2/09 at 11:53 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:58 am to
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I promise you, if we had Wells last year, we would still have not made the playoffs.


if we had Beanie Wells(or a big back) and John Carney we make the playoffs last year.


By addressing some concerns in the secondary during FA, its given us the luxury of taking a RB at 14.

A RB would make the biggest impact THIS year than just about any other player in the draft. and our window is closing Brees isnt getting any younger.
This post was edited on 4/2/09 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22020 posts
Posted on 4/2/09 at 11:59 am to
Whodat,

its a double edged sword

some fans believe the shitty defense was the reason for the close game losses, and some believe it was the inability to run out the clock.

to each his own I guess...I'm tired of arguing about it.

I want defense first, but if the FO goes RB...I want it to be Wells.
This post was edited on 4/2/09 at 12:03 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 12:01 pm to
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if we had Beanie Wells and John Carney we make the playoffs last year.


If we had John Carney last year we make it, IMHO, IMO, STFU, GTFO, WYHI, FWIW

ETA: I don't want to see this happen, but picking Wells cannot be a BAD thing....right??
This post was edited on 4/2/09 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 4/2/09 at 12:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/2/09 at 12:03 pm
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21704 posts
Posted on 4/2/09 at 12:20 pm to
I think we need a game changing, pass rushing OLB to pair with Vilma more than a RB. But that's JMO. Ultimately, because I am a TRUE Saints fan, I will support whatever the FO and coaching staff end up doing with the pick. If it's Wells, so be it. Not my first choice, but hell, if he's a Saint, he's on my team. I still don't think they'll draft him first though. Now, if we could get Wells and Matthews......
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
1042 posts
Posted on 4/2/09 at 12:24 pm to
Some scouting reports:

Chris Wells
Knowshon Moreno


I know its pointless to try to reason with wdf, but what part of drafting a player to sit the bench do you think is going to help stop the pass? Saints aren't drafting a DE and very unlikely to draft a DT. They're not drafting a MLB. With Porter, Greer, Gay, David, Young and possibly resigning MM, they're not taking a CB in the 1st to sit the bench. With Sharper signing, its unlikely they'll take a safety to sit the bench.

OLB? Strongest defensive possibility, and adding an OLB is not going to cover the deep ball nor instantly pressure the QB. A decent running game that can keep the defense off the field for any length of time longer than last year is that much more rest for the entire defense and less time for the opposing team when they do have the ball. Learn football; this is basic stuff.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21704 posts
Posted on 4/2/09 at 12:51 pm to
Paytons offense is pass first run later. The defense was the achilles heel last year, not the offense. Don't tell me to learn anything son. If anyone needs a lesson, it's your dumbass. We need the defense to get into the top 10-12 to have a legitimate shot at a title. A running back will NOT make that happen. Learn football, son.......
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