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Cardell Hayes guilty again
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:50 am
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No reasonable fear for his life, no shite. Some here will not be happy they aren’t celebrating Hayes’ freedom.
No reasonable fear for his life, no shite. Some here will not be happy they aren’t celebrating Hayes’ freedom.
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:21 am to Chad504boy
The only issue anyone had with the 1st trial was the fact there was a holdout or 2 on the jury... but at the time 10-2 was good enough to get a conviction in Louisiana
This time... no holdouts on convicting him
Justice is served
Sad that 1 of the Super Bowl Saints was gunned down in the city that loved him so much... all over a road rage incident
This time... no holdouts on convicting him
Justice is served
Sad that 1 of the Super Bowl Saints was gunned down in the city that loved him so much... all over a road rage incident
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:26 am to Chad504boy
I just couldn't get over the fact that Hayes exited his car with a weapon drawn... And he shot Smith in the back...
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:56 am to Athis
Hayes was always the equal threat that will presumed to be. fricking trash.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:10 am to Chad504boy
Where's Hayes Saints Talk defense attorney? Surprised he hasn't shown up yet. Paging Lester.....
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:49 am to whodatfan
Will Smith and his entourage caused this, but Cardell is still guilty.
If the roles are reversed, Smith walks.
If the roles are reversed, Smith walks.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:50 am to rt3
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Justice is served
Smith drove off after rear ending Hayes because he had a blood alcohol level of 0.24, triple the legal limit.
Hayes, who was sober, followed in pursuit. Both men and their friends and got out, fists being throw equally.
Smith was headed back to his car to get a firearm. Hayes had every right to protect himself for fear of being shot by a drunk former athlete known to carry a gun in his ride
Justice was not served. Free Cardell Hayes. He stood his grown.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:58 am to DJ3K
quote:
He stood his grown.
Who drew a firearm first?
There can be bad decisions all around. But one can cause things to go beyond what is reasonably required.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:03 am to DJ3K
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Smith was headed back to his car to get a firearm.
Did smith go get a gun cause it was known Hayes had a gun?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:06 am to Athis
quote:
I just couldn't get over the fact that Hayes exited his car with a weapon drawn... And he shot Smith in the back...
Justice has been delayed but now it’s properly served. May the Smith family find peace and joy going forward.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:06 am to goatmilker
quote:so you expected hayes to wait for Smith to get his gun before doing anything?
Who drew a firearm first?
Who drew his gun first in zimmerman vs Martin? What isn't zimmerman is jail?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
Did anyone see the video of Big Freedia leaving the courthouse after the verdict?
He/She big mad
He/She big mad
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:34 am to DJ3K
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so you expected hayes to wait for Smith
You must draw your gun a lot. I mean you can't wait for someone else to right?
Pull that smoke wagon. That crazy white chick yelling at you? Pull it don't wait. Kid smashes your mailbox? Better pull it before they do. You know in this world maybe you should just walk around with your gun pulled all the time. Why wait for someone else to do it first.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:50 am to DJ3K
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so you expected hayes to wait for Smith to get his gun before doing anything?
Legally... yes
quote:
Who drew his gun first in zimmerman vs Martin? What isn't zimmerman is jail?
Different state... different laws
But wasn't Zimmerman's head actively being bashed in when he shot Martin?
You can protect yourself from an assault in progress
Same for the old man movie theater/"popcorn shooter"... the defense showed in court he had just been assaulted (had a phone thrown at his face in a dark theater... more than popcorn being thrown in his face) and b/c of that the jury deemed the shooting as self-defense
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:00 pm to DJ3K
quote:
Smith drove off after rear ending Hayes because he had a blood alcohol level of 0.24, triple the legal limit. Hayes, who was sober, followed in pursuit. Both men and their friends and got out, fists being throw equally. Smith was headed back to his car to get a firearm. Hayes had every right to protect himself for fear of being shot by a drunk former athlete known to carry a gun in his ride Justice was not served. Free Cardell Hayes. He stood his grown.
While I don't agree with some these statements... the overall point he making ain't too far off... Will hands ain't clean in this... didn't deserve to be shot though...
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:06 pm to lepdagod
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While I don't agree with some these statements... the overall point he making ain't too far off... Will hands ain't clean in this... didn't deserve to be shot though...
Agreed... Will made mistakes that night
But the issue I would have as a juror is we can get into that circle that Will was going to his car to do... what exactly?
Was he grabbing the gun? Maybe
Was he getting in the car to leave again? Also a legit possibility... as an outside observer we just don't know for sure
They were on a public street... both had a right to be there... and at the moment of the shooting it could not be shown that Will Smith was a clear and present danger (aside for DWI)
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:14 pm to goatmilker
Cooler heads should have prevailed for a minor fender bender
Both families lost
Smith with his life and Hayes son without a dad
Both families lost
Smith with his life and Hayes son without a dad
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:47 pm to rt3
quote:and Smith and his boys were fighting Hayes and his boys
But wasn't Zimmerman's head actively being bashed in when he shot Martin?
Smith was losing the fist fight and retreated to his car.
Why would someone that was getting his arse beat, known to carry a gun, retreat to his car?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:53 pm to DJ3K
Will went for his gun cause cardell had the heat in the fight
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:58 pm to Chad504boy
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Will went for his gun cause cardell had the heat in the fight
If that's the case... Hayes innocent
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