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10 things we learned from Saints' win vs. Dolphins in London

Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:45 am
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:45 am
LINK by Jeff Duncan


1. The Saints have weathered the 0-2 start

After starting the season with losses to Minnesota and New England, the Saints have to feel good about themselves now that they’ve evened their record at 2-2. The Saints enter the open date on their schedule with confidence and momentum. And the slate gets easier.

2. Dennis Allen has resurrected the defense
As bad as the Saints' defense looked in the opening two games, they’ve looked just as good the past two. The Saints dominated their second consecutive opponent. Miami gained 81 yards and six first downs on its opening drive and was limited to 6 total yards and two first downs on its next five series as the Saints took control. Amazing how different things look when Tom Brady isn’t the opposing quarterback.

3. Ken Crawley needs to clear room on his mantle
The second-year cornerback from Colorado picked an opportune time to make his first career interception. His interception of Jay Cutler in the red zone thwarted a serious Dolphins scoring threat on the opening drive. Miami marched from its 15-yard line to the Saints’ 4 and had a first-and-goal when Crawley jumped the fade route by Julius Thomas and made a leaping, two-handed pick. It was a huge momentum-swinging play, and Crawley understandably kept the ball for posterity.

4. Adrian Peterson didn't sign up for this
The former NFL MVP running back was rendered a non-factor for the fourth consecutive game. Peterson’s longest gain from scrimmage this season is an 11-yard run against Carolina. He finished with 4 yards on four carries with a long run of 4 yards vs. Miami. It’s been a forgettable start to Peterson’s Saints tenure.

5. The Saints continue to not beat themselves
Although they came perilously close at times, the Saints did not commit a turnover for the fourth game. The Saints have never started a season without a turnover in four consecutive games. They were whistled for eight penalties but few of them were particularly egregious or harmful. All in all, it was another clean game for the Saints execution-wise. The 1995 Rams and the 2013 Titans are the only other teams in NFL history to not have a turnover through the first four games.

6. Zach Strief's rough season continues
Just when it looked like the 12-year veteran offensive tackle was back and ready to solidify the right side of the Saints' line, he went down with another ugly knee injury. The severity of the injury remains unclear, but Strief was in serious pain while laying on the field in the fourth quarter. The Saints have an open date to determine a plan of action along the line if Strief is sidelined for an extended period of time, but the injury is a setback. If this indeed is Strief's final season in New Orleans, it's off to a frustrating start.

7. The rookie class continues to shine
Rookies Marshon Lattimore and Alvin Kamara are coming on.
Lattimore matched up one-on-one with Miami receiver DeVante Parker and more than held his own. He gave up a few short throws but largely held the Dolphins’ primary weapon in check. Lattimore was credited with five tackles and also had a cagey forced fumble just before halftime, but the ball bounced out of bounds before the Saints could recover it. Kamara, meanwhile, had another fine all-around day, gaining 71 yards and a touchdown on a team-high 10 receptions and adding 25 yards on five carries.

8. Miami is not very good, especially on offense
Miami couldn't get anything going against the Saints. Jay Cutler had a nice first drive, but that ended with a pick in the end zone. Cutler was sacked four times, and the Dolphins also were only 1-of-8 on third down. The defense held tight for a half, limiting the Saints to a field goal, but wore down as the game progressed from a lack of support by the offense.

9. The league can burn the tape of the first half
The ugly first half did little to help the NFL’s mission to attract international fans to the sport. The teams combined for 11 penalties, one interception, two fumbles (none lost), a missed field-goal attempt and a handful of dropped passes. The execution was so dreadful by both teams the thought crossed my mind that head coaches Adam Gase and Sean Payton, whose contempt for international games is well known, might have personally sabotaged their teams’ game plans in an effort to prevent future invitations by the NFL.

10. The English weather lived down to its reputation
The game was played in classic fall British weather. It was cold. It was cloudy. It was gray. It was bleak. Highs reached 60 degrees, but most of the game was played in mid-50s temperatures. In short, it was exactly the kind of weather you’d expect to find in London in October.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:29 am to
Other than the Dolphins 1st drive of 81 yards, & our run blocking...we had a great game. Some takeaways that I got from the game:

-We actually won a game with Brees being a game manager & leaning on our defense.

-Ingram & Kamara should be our 1-2 punch.

-Mike Thomas catches the ball with guys draped all over him. He has to have some of the strongest hands I've ever seen in a WR. Legit #1 WR.

-Ginn was a smart and cheap F.A. pickup. He produces in the passing game, running game, & has been solid on punt returns(he almost broke one against Miami). Getting Snead back should also make things easier for Ginn in the passing game.

-Fleener is playing like a complete TE so far this year. Catching the ball in traffic & doing a great job blocking.

-OL was good in pass protection, but our 3 RB's averaged 3.2 ypc as a whole. Miami does have a pretty good D-Line though.

-Rankins had a good game according to PFF. Got pressure on the QB, & took on double teams against the run. The stats won't show it, but he had a good game. He gets doubled all the time without Fairley next to him. If you have the game on your DVR, check out the play in the 3rd Qtr at the 7:47 mark. He gets doubled on a run play & stands up both O-Linemen...causing the RB to run into the OL. Okafor cleans it up.

-Okafor is our most underrated F.A. pickup so far this year. He's been legit against the run all year & gets pressure on occasion.

-Klein was his usual self. There was no dropoff in production after Robertson replaced Anzalone. Robertson might have even played better(their running game went to shite after Robertson got in the game).

-Lattimore & Crawley were the players of the game for us. Quick slants were about all the Dolphins could complete against either of them. It's not like they were going up against scrubs either(Jarvis Landry, DeVante Parker, Kenny Stills, & Julius Thomas at TE).

-Vaccaro & Bell closed on the ball & tackled well. Marcus Williams played a good centerfield for the 2nd week in a row(barely missed an INT).
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 7:00 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17484 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:33 am to
I think I have developed a man crush on Lattimore...as a Saints fan, I guess I was conditioned that a CB was always 5 yards away from the receiver making the play. He is ALWAYS on top of his guy. STUD
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5281 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:42 am to
I hate to see Streif get injured but I think our best 5 on the Oline are:
Armstead - Peat - Unger - Warford - Ramczyk
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:37 am to
Strief is better than Ram and Ram was the one that caused the Strief injury by letting his man in.

I thought the line should have been Peat, Kelemete, Unger, Warford, and Strief to start yesterday.

That said Ram seems to be a better RT and we should get Amrstead back for the Lions game.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by kfaulk03
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
1480 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:00 am to
Don't drink ten pints and take the heathrow express at 5am for work Monday is what I learned.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6606 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:28 pm to
The running game was about the only negative but the Dolphins appear to have a great run D.

Go look at their box scores. They've shut down everyone on the ground this year so far.
Posted by BayouLSU
down south
Member since Feb 2007
471 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:41 pm to
Ndamukong Suh. All you need to know. No shame in not being able to run on that guy.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90054 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:46 pm to
Good breakdown G.

I think the Saints using 3-4 safeties and playing more man coverage has worked out the last two games. I am sure we will play more corners though when we play the likes of Atlanta and Detroit.
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