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re: Who guards LeBron, Ruffles and potentially Giannis?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Scott Foster calling game. Herb will have 2 fouls 4 minutes into the game.
I think Herb starts on LeBron, but if he gets into early foul trouble, maybe switch to Dyson there. Herb's offense coming along makes him much more playable with another defensive minded player like Dyson.
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:26 am to 50_Tiger
quote:It has already been decided. The actual game play is just a formality and for TV revenue.
Scott Foster is reffin this game
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:39 pm to ghost2most
AD and Giannis are tough for any team, but more than most are problematic for us.
Jonas is so, so good for us against most of the league. But AD is a nightmare matchup for him defensively and we just don’t have much behind Jonas.
Agree with whoever set ignore AD at the 3 point line. Let him have it and hopefully he stays out there.
Jonas is so, so good for us against most of the league. But AD is a nightmare matchup for him defensively and we just don’t have much behind Jonas.
Agree with whoever set ignore AD at the 3 point line. Let him have it and hopefully he stays out there.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:43 pm to ghost2most
JV needs to gaurd AD and abuse his sissy arse. Make him have to go to the lockerroom mid game so he can get his attention like a 5 year old.
You put JV on him and make him shoot jumpers all day. If he hits them, so be it.
I almost agree having someone else guard Lebron a good bit other than Herb. Herb is going to be better served helping than guarding Lebron, and Lebron is going to slowly go around picks trying to neutralize whoever is guarding him as best he can.
Dyson is who i'd like to stay with Lebron, as I think he's the best on our team at getting around/through picks.
BI and Zion need to guard whoever is least active on their offense, so not Reaves. CJ actually does a decent job chasing guys around.
Cam Reddish has done pretty much nothing when he's in the game in the last 5 games. He's 2-12 from 3 and has scored a total of 30 points playing 29mpg on average. SHooting 30% from 3 (which of course means he will go 4-6 tonight)
That's Zion's man.
Prince just shoots 3's, and has only shot 2 free throws in the last 7 games. That's BI's man, and don't let him shoot open 3's. Close out hard and make him put it on the floor. He'll turn the ball over twice at least. He has more turnovers than assists in the last 5 games.
Jose should guard Reaves and Russell, and irritate the shite out of them.
Hachimura is the one guy i worry about making a differnce in the game. He's shooting really well from 3 this year and he hustles. Whoever's guarding him better be ready.....Trey. I do'nt want to see Zion on Hachimura.
I'd really like to see Zion guard AD some in a small ball lineup. I know it was just two times against Sabonis, but Zion's big arse can stop anyone in the post from getting position, and making AD try to back him down 1 on 1 and then do a turn around fade away like he always does when he can't back someone down is exactly what you want from him as a defender. Again, if he makes it, so be it, but that's good defense making him shoot fadeaway jumpers.
You put JV on him and make him shoot jumpers all day. If he hits them, so be it.
I almost agree having someone else guard Lebron a good bit other than Herb. Herb is going to be better served helping than guarding Lebron, and Lebron is going to slowly go around picks trying to neutralize whoever is guarding him as best he can.
Dyson is who i'd like to stay with Lebron, as I think he's the best on our team at getting around/through picks.
BI and Zion need to guard whoever is least active on their offense, so not Reaves. CJ actually does a decent job chasing guys around.
Cam Reddish has done pretty much nothing when he's in the game in the last 5 games. He's 2-12 from 3 and has scored a total of 30 points playing 29mpg on average. SHooting 30% from 3 (which of course means he will go 4-6 tonight)
That's Zion's man.
Prince just shoots 3's, and has only shot 2 free throws in the last 7 games. That's BI's man, and don't let him shoot open 3's. Close out hard and make him put it on the floor. He'll turn the ball over twice at least. He has more turnovers than assists in the last 5 games.
Jose should guard Reaves and Russell, and irritate the shite out of them.
Hachimura is the one guy i worry about making a differnce in the game. He's shooting really well from 3 this year and he hustles. Whoever's guarding him better be ready.....Trey. I do'nt want to see Zion on Hachimura.
I'd really like to see Zion guard AD some in a small ball lineup. I know it was just two times against Sabonis, but Zion's big arse can stop anyone in the post from getting position, and making AD try to back him down 1 on 1 and then do a turn around fade away like he always does when he can't back someone down is exactly what you want from him as a defender. Again, if he makes it, so be it, but that's good defense making him shoot fadeaway jumpers.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:56 pm to MrBarry
Agree with all this. Also thinks Dyson needs to be ready to guard Bron, my gut tells me Herb gets into foul trouble in this game. I also think JV probably does too,- overall hes been great but AD is a really tough matchup especially with pick and roll coverage and lobs. I can’t see many Zion at the 5 lineups working in this game, lakers are way too big.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:09 pm to Pels_Yaz
Trey will be the x factor in this game. Should have the length and strength to play with Davis and he has the mobility to play on the perimeter against Bron if the line up calls for him to defend on the perimeter. We're about to see how much improvement he's made on the defensive end tonight. I expect him to play big minutes tonight.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:13 pm to supe12sta12z
The fact I think Trey is on minutes restriction and its his third game back- I think you’re asking a lot for him to cover AD and Bron at times. I think for now he comes off the bench and hits his threes he’ll be fine.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:16 pm to Pels_Yaz
Minute restrictions? He played 30 minutes on Monday. Not really asking for a lot since he'll play the 5 and the wing positions depending on the lineups. He'll be matches up both guys at some point.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:18 pm to Pels_Yaz
Rui and Russell are the only two guys that have been hitting 3's well for them, well, and Lebron.
Literally everyone else on the team is below 33%.
Lebron is going to use the AD pick and roll just above the FT line and we need to help and stop both of them first. Rui and Russell aren't going to share the court that much, so just one guy needs to be aware of not leaving his man too open. Everyone else help out and make their bad shooters shoot 3's.
THE LAKERS ARE THE 2ND WORST 3 POINT SHOOTING TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.
They are 6th in FG% so don't let them get to the goal and make them beat you from outside. If they beat you b/c they go 15-30 from 3, then so be it.
Also....
the Lakers and Pels both average 25 FTA per game, good for 4th highest in the league.
Let's see how that comparison goes tonight Mr Foster.
The Lakers are 1st in the league for least amount of fouls committed per game, along with the Knicks and Boston. Hilarious that those 3 teams committ the least amount of fouls in the league.
Literally everyone else on the team is below 33%.
Lebron is going to use the AD pick and roll just above the FT line and we need to help and stop both of them first. Rui and Russell aren't going to share the court that much, so just one guy needs to be aware of not leaving his man too open. Everyone else help out and make their bad shooters shoot 3's.
THE LAKERS ARE THE 2ND WORST 3 POINT SHOOTING TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.
They are 6th in FG% so don't let them get to the goal and make them beat you from outside. If they beat you b/c they go 15-30 from 3, then so be it.
Also....
the Lakers and Pels both average 25 FTA per game, good for 4th highest in the league.
Let's see how that comparison goes tonight Mr Foster.
The Lakers are 1st in the league for least amount of fouls committed per game, along with the Knicks and Boston. Hilarious that those 3 teams committ the least amount of fouls in the league.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:19 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
he fact I think Trey is on minutes restriction and its his third game back
He can play as many minutes as needed b/c he's a professional basketball player who is in shape.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:22 pm to supe12sta12z
In his third game back you’re asking him to matchup on one of the greatest players of our generation and one of the better big men of our league while providing floor spacing offense as well? I love Trey but this is what I mean when the board has unrealistic early expectations of Trey.
I think the defensive assignments on both if these will likely be left to Naji, Herb, Dyson and JV. Maybe at times Zion and Ingram- I rather they not guard them honestly.
I think the defensive assignments on both if these will likely be left to Naji, Herb, Dyson and JV. Maybe at times Zion and Ingram- I rather they not guard them honestly.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:30 pm to Pels_Yaz
So what if it's his third game back? It's not on a minutes restriction and he has had adequate rest. He's going to be matched up with Bron and AD when the lineup calls for it. That doesn't mean it'll be all game long. Herb, Dyson, Naji, and Trey will more than likely rotate based on the lineup as well. We don't hide Trey on defense. Zion and BI sure. But definitely not Trey.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:37 pm to supe12sta12z
Trey admitted himself he missed couple defensive assignments when he came back. This is no knock on Trey but hes not a lockdown defender by any means at this stage of his career. If he gets matched up on them in a game- it’ll happen but I also can promise both Bron and AD will take advantage of that as well.
Yeah we don’t hide him but its not in our best interest or in Willie’s to have your best shooter getting in foul trouble because hes being switched on Bron/AD. Just wouldn’t make any logical sense.
Yeah we don’t hide him but its not in our best interest or in Willie’s to have your best shooter getting in foul trouble because hes being switched on Bron/AD. Just wouldn’t make any logical sense.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:38 pm to ghost2most
I'd give Trey a shot at guarding AD. Hell, I'd also run Dyson at him for some possessions.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:38 pm to Pels_Yaz
You're just full of shite now.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:40 pm to ghost2most
I promise you this: Jonas will fight harder guarding AD than AD will guarding Jonas.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:43 pm to supe12sta12z
Lol no im not. If you’re the lakers you would welcome Trey guarding Bron or AD because you know hes not a great defender and if you get him into foul trouble it completely messes up the spacing of our offense. Again your expectations of Trey are extremely high. Yeah it matters its his third game back from a major injury in his career- you don’t just expect him to become a plus defender over night. Trey is best in providing help defense and using his length to get boards this stage in his career.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:43 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
its not in our best interest or in Willie’s to have your best shooter getting in foul trouble because hes being switched on Bron/AD.
The crazy thing is that shooting is actually a strength for us at this point in the season. I'm really not worried about AD putting anyone on our team in foul trouble. He's scared to bang.
Edited: I'm sure the refs are going to call a Lakers heavy game tonight, but I don't think who's guarding who is going to matter.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:44 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
n his third game back you’re asking him to matchup on one of the greatest players of our generation and one of the better big men of our league while providing floor spacing offense as well? I love Trey but this is what I mean when the board has unrealistic early expectations of Trey.
My man, he's a professional basketball player. There's nothign unrealistic about him being able to play 30 minutes of a 48 minute NBA game.
Get this Zion fat arse out of shape crap out of your head. It doesn't apply to anyone else in the league.
Jamal Murray played 29 minutes last night. It was his 2nd game in the last 31 days.
CJ comes back from a 3.5 week haitus from a collapsed lung and plays 28, 38, and 36 minutes in 3 games in 5 days.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:47 pm to Pels_Yaz
Keep moving those goal posts. Every post has a new one. It's all hands on deck. To sit there and say he won't guard either guy is ridiculous. Foul trouble is your concern? Trey has a very low foul rate. He's not exclusively guarding those guys as we will throw different guys at them all game long. Foul trouble won't be a problem for him.
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