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re: Who do you think is our starting center this year?

Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:32 pm to
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But he’s going to be surrounded by all stars on an extremely deep team. If you don’t think that’s going to elevate his play then like I said earlier, you just don’t know ball.


Deep? We don’t even have a rotational NBA center on the roster. You’re acting like this is some super team. Most of the guys on our roster are extremely young.

And stop with the shitty pick up games insults. It just minimizes your point.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:33 pm to
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Typically that is true. But what options do we have that are better that Yves? Using the G league to develop players is a luxury but not always available when depth is thin


I don’t think this is our final roster.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:33 pm to
How do I add the yawn emote?
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Hes a good kid with potential but expecting this raw kid to make an impact in major minutes on a playoff contending team is asking too much.


Dereck Lively says hello

ETA: I also didn’t say he’d get playoff minutes. I just said he isn’t your typical guy from Africa that a scout just found and gave him a basketball. His family being involved in the game is a good indicator that he could figure it out and put in the work. That’s what that means
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 6:58 pm
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:05 pm to
He would be getting minutes on a team beside Zion, BI, Dejounte, CJ, Herb, and Trey. 6 very very good players, all in their own right. People acting like Derrick Lively is an unreal comp is funny to me, they put a raw rookie beside Kyrie and Luka and he dunked and rebounded the ball really well. Crazy, I know. Expecting Yves to do the same beside Zion, CJ, Dejounte and BI is some outlandish statement and he needs to earn his way out of the gleague when we have no other C on the roster
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Dereck Lively says hello ETA: I also didn’t say he’d get playoff minutes. I just said he isn’t your typical guy from Africa that a scout just found and gave him a basketball. His family being involved in the game is a good indicator that he could figure it out and put in the work. That’s what that means


Agreed. I get your point in regards to his background.

But comparing Missi to Lively is exactly what I mean by unrealistic expectations. Lively was a much better prospect coming out of college than Missi. This is not an insult to Missi, its just Lively was that good.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:09 pm to
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People acting like Derrick Lively is an unreal comp is funny to me, they put a raw rookie beside Kyrie and Luka and he dunked and rebounded the ball really well. Crazy, I know.


You’re acting like Lively’s defensive intelligence and rotations weren’t elite coming out of college. He didn’t just dunk and rebound. The guy was rotating and defending like a vet. Its what made him elite.
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:10 pm to
Vuc cannot be the answer. Not good enough defensively.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:12 pm to
Before you edit your post, let me get this straight. The guy who averaged 5.2 points, 5.4 rebs, and 2.4 blocks was a MUCH BETTER prospect than the guy who averaged 10.7 points, 5.6 rebs, and 1.5 blocks, both as true freshmen. You literally don’t know what you’re talking about and you just proved it, unless you’re just going by draft position alone and ignoring everything else
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:14 pm to
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The guy who averaged 5.2 points, 5.4 rebs, and 2.4 blocks was a MUCH BETTER prospect than the guy who averaged 10.7 points, 5.6 rebs, and 1.5 blocks, both as true freshmen. You literally don’t know what you’re talking about and you just proved it, unless you’re just going by draft position alone and ignoring everything else


Yes. Everyone on this board would agree Lively is a better prospect than Missi.

So every nba analyst is wrong. Because nobody who analyzes prospects will say Missi is better than Lively. You don’t even read about draft prospects if you actually think this. Are you trolling?
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:16 pm to
You said much better. Like Lively was a sure fire hit out of the draft. He was a raw prospect, just like Missi. You’re just using hindsight to try to make your point
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:19 pm to
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You said much better. Like Lively was a sure fire hit out of the draft. He was a raw prospect, just like Missi. You’re just using hindsight to try to make your point


He was much better. No one is a sure fire hit. You assumed I said this. He was easily the best big man in a decent draft.

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You’re just using hindsight to try to make your point


Its not hindsight, go read draft profiles. Do some research. As prospects they weren’t graded the same.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:20 pm to
Players drafted before Derrick Lively: Anthony Black 1.06, Bilal Coulibaly 1.07, Jarace Walker 1.08, Taylor Hendricks 1.09, Cason Wallace 1.10, Jett Howard 1.11 then finally Lively at 1.12. Very raw prospect who was passed up many many times and didn’t produce at a high level in college. Stop using your 20/20 hindsight to act like it’s not a surprise Lively panned out as well as he did
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:22 pm to
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Players drafted before Derrick Lively: Anthony Black 1.06, Bilal Coulibaly 1.07, Jarace Walker 1.08, Taylor Hendricks 1.09, Cason Wallace 1.10, Jett Howard 1.11 then finally Lively at 1.12. Very raw prospect who was passed up many many times and didn’t produce at a high level in college. Stop using your 20/20 hindsight to act like it’s not a surprise Lively panned out as well as he did


Go read Lively’s draft profile and then read Missi’s. Its not remotely the same. All those guys you listed- none of them were centers. Lively was the best big man in the draft.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:23 pm to
You are not only wrong but also disingenuous. No point in arguing further. When you come out and saw one of the rawest rookies in a while who averaged 5 points and 5 rebounds in his 1 and done season was a much better prospect, you lose credibility and I see you’re willing to argue anything as long as you think it supports your claim. Farewell amigo
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:27 pm to
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When you come out and saw one of the rawest rookies in a while who averaged 5 points and 5 rebounds in his 1 and done season was a much better prospect, you lose credibility and I see you’re willing to argue anything as long as you think it supports your claim. Farewell amigo


No one will agree with you on this but ok amigo. You’re ignoring that his defensive awareness was off the charts and its what separates him. You’re just staring at his stats. No one in their right mind compares Missi as a prospect to Lively other than you. I like Missi but hes not the same as Lively.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:30 pm to
Almost every team in the league drafts BPA, you’re saying he was the consensus best big man (behind Wemby I presume) yet he was passed up 6 picks in a row for very mid guards and wings. If teams thought he was as good as you imply he doesn’t fall to 12 behind all those scrubs you’ve never heard of. But I digress, I’m not going to change your scrub mind. I would gladly do a ban bet that Missi has a Lively like impact on the Pels rotation assuming we don’t add 2 other Cs in front of him
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:30 pm to
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The amount of times I watched JV get OR’s and then miss putback after putback. Yes, I’ll actually go out on a limb and say Missi will be better


Look I’m no stranger to bad basketball takes, but this is a terrible take.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:33 pm to
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I would gladly do a ban bet that Missi has a Lively like impact on the Pels rotation assuming we don’t add 2 other Cs in front of him


Lol so you want to do the bet but it wont count if the pels add 2 centers??

If hes as good as you say he should be able to beat out those guys. Thats what Lively did. If you make a bet stand behind it. Don’t make some shite excuse like if we sign other centers he wont be that impactful. See even you think Missi isn’t that good from your so called wager.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:33 pm to
Then you just don’t know what I’m arguing buckaroo, saying that a 20 year old with a 38 inch vertical will be a better dunker than a 33 yo dinosaur JV is not a hot take. And by the way, the league agrees with me. If JV as good as yall like to pretend, why the frick did he just sign with the tanking Wizards?? He’s so good surely he could have put a contending team over the top. Y’all’s love affair with JV is fricking hilarious. Dude is a dinosaur, slow as frick. Get over it
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