re: Westbrook may be available

His contract is disgusting and finding players that complement his game seems difficult

LE you cant even agree without arguing. But since you asked, compare the first five years of his career where it was getting better, to the last five years where its getting worse. LOL

He got it close to 45% and 33% on threes by around year 5 in the league, after starting off abysmall, 39% and 27% from 3.

Now its dropped back down to closer to where he started at a out 40% and 29% from 3. I.e. its going downhill. He’s almost dropped back to his rookie percentages.

He cant resist hogging the ball, chasing stats, and taking bad shots.

Lol, I think this whole thread explains it, going on 31, game getting worse, proven stat chaser, ball hog that wont fit in a free flowing offense (dont act like his assists and reb numbers arent padded by his system), cant shoot for shite anymore, runs off teammates.

Read the posts on the thread dude. Geez

Oh let me add, long term loser whose never won shite playoffs, beaten like a drum in the playoffs repeatedly while he talks shite about how great he is.

This would be a disaster.

Holiday is the perfect near superstar to match with Zion.

Redick, Favors, Ball, and Ingram present a very good starting five while Zion learns the NBA game.

Hopefully Zion explodes in year two and a player like Giannis Antetokounmpo comes to New Orleans.

Bron needed help from other superstars to keep up with GSW. Bron traded HALF his team just to keep up. Bron actually had a supporting cast. Westbrook just had PG. Who has OKC surrounded Wesrbrook with? I'll wait. Harden doesn't actually play defense tho. Actually... he just started playing defense. Cmon dude.. do better???? Do you realize what you're saying? Harden has HOUSTON as his team. Those guys would do well if he got hurt rn. Could you honestly say the same for OKC if Westbrook went down? Do you realize Westbrook is doing everything by himself? Even when he had PG it was just him and PG. With the Rockets.. it's Harden, CP3, Capela, Faried, NeNe and a good bench. Put Westbrook on a team that Lebron, KD or Harden have and I bet he does well...Yes I watch the Pels.. what does that have to do with Westbrook?

Do me a favor and tell me what Westbrook’s uncontested defensive rebound numbers are?

What’s that? He nearly leads the league consistently? Around 8 uncontested defensive rebounds per game.

What is his contested defensive rebound percentage? What’s that? He is near the bottom of the league consistently.

...That’s how you pad rebounding stats! You design a system where your big men and those in the natural rebounding roles are told to allow Westbrook to have those rebounds. Your job is to block out or get out of the way so he can have the bird. Under the guise that helps the team get out in transition. You can argue whether that is a legitimate strategy or not, but the result is inflated rebounding stats(and I would point out his transition scoring numbers aren’t all that impressive).

Different issue crops up with assists. Like Harden, he isn’t a natural facilitator. Mike Conley talks about the notepad he has in his head with all his players tendencies and their current in-game performance. Who needs to get shots, where, at what time. Who hasn’t touched the ball enough, who is hot and needs to be fed, who is struggling and needs an easy bucket. Westbrook, like Harden, like Evans of old, just plays for numero uno and passes to whoever gives him the numbers or the bucket. Only rarely taking into account such things. The result is like OKC often struggled with before George, it is the Westbrook show for 3 and a half quarters and then because you didn’t spend any time developing a game day relationship with other teammates, just haphazardly dumping off when it’s convenient, there is rarely anyone ready to go in crunch time as your legs tire out. Westbrook is a great passer, but he is not a good facilitator. And their is a big difference in the NBA.

Westbrook has one of the worst 3 pt percentages in the league

Guys are forced to boxout for him so he can get rebounds

He doesnt play defense so that he can get rebounds

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I suggest you take the time to read this

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How many superstars have good 3p numbers? Why does that matter if you find other ways to score? That is literally the case for many bigs on many teams. I still remember being taught that when playing high school basketball. His drpg has drastically dipped but y'all act like this man wasn't avg 9...8 in the earlier yrs of his career. Can you please tell me how many SG/PG have 5 many drpg tho? Does 5 also mean all of them don't play defense? And what about his 1.3 Spg? Does that also mean he doesn't play defense?

I thought you meant big men on opposing teams. Be that as it may.. how many other teams have the same strategy? Literally have seen the same thing done dozens of times, so let me ask this: how is it that his rebounding numbers end up still being higher than other guys in his position that have incorporated the same strategy? And even with that said strategy.. it is not necessarily a guarantee that anyone else in his position could still win those rebounds. Number inflation or not.. the fact 5 this man can even have those numbers should still be alarming. How many players in the league can say that they could do what Westbrook does? And if you can pass the ball..then you can pass the ball. You keep saying "it goes beyond the box score" so what is it? I'm confused as to what y'all want this man to do lol. If one can dish out the ball to another and 5 player scores.. does that not mean that man facilitated the ball? Maybe I'm confused as to what you're trying to say but my overall point is.. even with all of what y'all are saying. Even with the "knick knacks" and ppl knit picking at his stats.. how many players... put in his shoes and the same system.. would be able to garner the same stats? Better yet.. think about this: Who does RW even have on his team that could help him? Even when he had PG.. that was it. Before PG, he had that PG from the Pacers. He doesn't have the squad and support that say Lebron, Curry, Kyrie, KD, Harden have. The point is.. to say this man doesn't have the supporting cast they do.. for him to be able to do what he's doing is downright insane. Who else do you know of that could do that? Hell Kobe was known all around to be a ball hogger and whatnot and he still didn't have those numbers that Westbrook have. If we're gonna knit pick..knit pick at all other superstars stats. Even Curry's numbers are inflated. Look up his percentages for uncontested vs. contested 3p shots and I bet you'll see a different story. Lebron doesn't really shoot 3's. AD wasn't perfect.. he couldn't really shoot 3's either. I'm not saying Westbrook is perfect bc he's not but let's not act as if any other regular players in the league could do what he does given the same system and the same players with the same strategies