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Vasquez and the Look Away Pass

Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:51 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:51 am
ATH on a specific improvement GV has made this year.

LINK

quote:

Vasquez's look aways have been effective in the half court and in full-blown transition, but they're perhaps most integral to theHornets' semi-transition game, one that's been significantly bolstered this season byAnthony Davis' ability to run the floor andRyan Anderson's tendency to intentionally trail on breaks. Vasquez has played the role of central fulcrum beautifully by passing players open.


Video in the link to an example of this from his triple double game
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 8:22 am to


Thanks for the link. I hope we keep him around for a while.
Posted by carnuba
tickfaw
Member since Jan 2009
1268 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:06 am to
ok, i'll do it.



trade him now whilr he still has value
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8513 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:16 am to
Last game I seen him do this twice, neiter time was an assist.

I think it shows he is coming around as a passer. We all know this isn't his strength, but he has made a huge improvement. Stats back this up 100%
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:23 am to
quote:

he is coming around as a passer. We all know this isn't his strength


Qua?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8513 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 11:50 am to
Coming out of college, no way passing was this guys strength.

That's what I mean, leesto?
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 12:22 pm to
GV is a fantastic passer, and he does get a good deal of assists, and they are efficient (for efficient shots) enough to make him one of the tops in the NBA in terms of being `tied' to scoring.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 1:52 pm to
Fantastic?
General Greivis is a very good passer.
Has gotten better and better. I hope it continues, which it should given the talent that will be around him. The talent that is surely to come. and, the team chemistry we are all starting to see.

I just don't know if I would use the word fantastic.


Posted by drake20
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Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I think it shows he is coming around as a passer. We all know this isn't his strength, but he has made a huge improvement


what is his strength then?


...maybe not a "fantastic" passer, but passing is his strength
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 3:19 pm
Posted by drake20
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 3:28 pm to
hope the coaches have him in the long term plans. He's a great passer and a great leader by all accounts. He's probably my favorite Hornet/Pelican
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Fantastic? General Greivis is a very good passer. Has gotten better and better. I hope it continues, which it should given the talent that will be around him. The talent that is surely to come. and, the team chemistry we are all starting to see. I just don't know if I would use the word fantastic.


This was done at the start of January . . .

Of the 91 players averaging at least 30 minutes per game, 17 players (none of which are Lillard) have an AST%/TO% ratio exceeding 2. Only 10 players have a ratio higher than Greivis’ 2.228: George Hill (2.261), Jrue Holiday (2.353), Deron Williams (2.423), Kyle Lowry (2.437), Raymond Felton (2.628), Kemba Walker (2.746), LeBron “I’m not a point guard” James (2.966), Russell Westbrook (3.088), Tony Parker (3.313), and Chris Paul (3.383).

The facts haven't significantly changed with any of the players. His ratio is 47.2/19.5 = 2.421. He's in that 2-2.5 range. That's literally top 10 in terms of a time-normalized measure of passing skill.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22752 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:09 pm to
Well I think since the beginning of the year he has been closer to 3 ast/to.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8513 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

strength then?
Looking back on his senior year. He had to carry Maryland. I'd say a scorer learning to be a point guard.

General Greivis is doing work this year. Have to wait and see if it holds up in the aggregate.

This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 6:44 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:02 pm to
I agree with you and Jester on keeping him around.

I thought for a while they might use him as a trade chip, but he's quickly becoming more valuable on and off the court than any return I've seen in some proposed trades.
Posted by drake20
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Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:29 pm to
ya, he's undoubtedly the leader of the team, and he keeps getting better and better.

...Gordon isn't taking that leadership role any time soon.

Can he be the PG on a championship team? I don't know. but i think the team should try to build around him, at least for as long as his contract is so great.

(i know the you don't need great PG argument....but we also don't have James, Wade, Kobe, Bynum, etc.)

quote:

he's quickly becoming more valuable on and off the court than any return I've seen in some proposed trades.


ya, can't imagine what the team would be offered that's better than what he has provided.
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 7:31 pm
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