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re: Pels talk told me Ty Lue wasn’t a good coach!!!
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:13 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:13 am to TigerinATL
Yeah but you have to give people a shot and hope you catch lightning in a bottle. What I’m saying is no one wanted to hire lue because everyone said he was a terrible coach and rode lebron to a championship (which was true) but he’s showing right now with kawhi being out that he’s much more than a coach that has to ride a superstar to success
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:33 am to Louisianabound88
So OP, are you just intentionally ignoring that Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley were majorly hobbled by the end of the series? The two key engines of that offense? That without them that team is not anything special.
Next I’m gonna hear about how great a series adjuster Bud is if by some miracle, they can close out a Kyrie-less, basically Harden-less Nets.
Next I’m gonna hear about how great a series adjuster Bud is if by some miracle, they can close out a Kyrie-less, basically Harden-less Nets.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:43 am to Bronc
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So OP, are you just intentionally ignoring that Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley were majorly hobbled by the end of the series?
Injuries happens all the time, is ty lue supposed to tell his guys not to play because donavan Mitchell is hurt? His job is to coach to win games and that’s what he did. I normally don’t respond to this type of stupidity but I’m feeling generous today
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:51 am to Bronc
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So OP, are you just intentionally ignoring that Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley were majorly hobbled by the end of the series?
The Clippers' best player didn't play the last two games either.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:53 am to kadillak
Billups
Kawhi
Conley
Championship
Kawhi
Conley
Championship
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:53 am to Louisianabound88
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. I normally don’t respond to this type of stupidity but I’m feeling generous today
And I'm feeling generous enough to tell you that you're acting like a whole jackass itt. If the Jazz don't completely choke away a 20 pt second half lead you'd have nothing to type about this morning. Congrats to the Clippers for having a guy have the game of his life against a hobbled Jazz team. Ty Lue ain't the main reason they won last night.
Remember when Ty Lue couldn't handle being a head coach?
We had this for information and his cavs team 0-6 and immediately fired after Lebron left.
You're I told you so bullshite is ignorance personified.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:55 am to oncealurker
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The problem is y’all listen to the retards on this board as to what you should believe and shouldn’t believe. If whatiknowsofar and FunBunch knew so damn much, they’d be coaching in the league themselves.
And also a motherfrick you as well to this bullshite. Bunch and I have opinions. We can also admit when we're wrong. We usually have a good rapport with posters that disagree with us here and have solid debates because they don't act like complete jackasses.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:57 am to kadillak
Right, but unlike the Clippers, the Jazz didn’t have a surplus of top 10 offensive players. Donovan Mitchell gets hobbled and your next best offensive player is….Bojan Bogdanovic or a 25mpg Clarkson.
Mitchell gets dinged up to go with their primary offensive facilitator and that team goes from overachieving to middling pretty quick.
Especially when it became clear from the Dallas series already that the type of game they ran in the Regular season wasn’t fully translating and it was Mitchell taking that team on his back to not be one and done. You hobble Mitchell and that team is mincemeat….Despite Mitchell’s heroic effort last night.
I don’t think having the healthier superstar getting hot against a hobbled team is a masterclass in coaching. Lue is fine, he is a good player manager, but outcoach a healthy team before I’m gonna declare you the second coming and jump into the TD emotional hot take bandwagon
Mitchell gets dinged up to go with their primary offensive facilitator and that team goes from overachieving to middling pretty quick.
Especially when it became clear from the Dallas series already that the type of game they ran in the Regular season wasn’t fully translating and it was Mitchell taking that team on his back to not be one and done. You hobble Mitchell and that team is mincemeat….Despite Mitchell’s heroic effort last night.
I don’t think having the healthier superstar getting hot against a hobbled team is a masterclass in coaching. Lue is fine, he is a good player manager, but outcoach a healthy team before I’m gonna declare you the second coming and jump into the TD emotional hot take bandwagon
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:03 am to Louisianabound88
Would be something to bring the clippers and cavs a title after decades of nothing
People in the league respect Lue’s coaching chops, holds more worth than posters on TD huh
People in the league respect Lue’s coaching chops, holds more worth than posters on TD huh
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:12 am to whatiknowsofar
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You're I told you so bull shite is ignorance personified.
How can it be an I told you so thread if I never had an opinion on ty lue in the first place? I’m just here for the ones who said he was terrible, and judging from your denial I’d say u were one of those people
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:13 am to Louisianabound88
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How can it be an I told you so thread if I never had an opinion on ty lue in the first place?
Oh so you're just a jackass that likes to play Captain Hindsight. Got it.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:17 am to whatiknowsofar
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you that you're acting like a whole jackass itt.
For the record I respect what you do with your game threads, I be totally in, but we all need that 1 friend to tell us when we’re wrong and I’m telling you from one die hard pelican fan to another that you’re wrong for discrediting ty lue’s coaching ability just because you don’t want to eat crow.
It’s all love bruh
sorry if u think I’m being an a-hole but not many on this board is not an a-hole so I guess you can call me a product of my environmentPosted on 6/19/21 at 10:21 am to whatiknowsofar
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Oh so you're just a jackass that likes to play Captain Hindsight. Got it.
So it’s ok for you to say someone is terrible but not ok for me to call you out on it when that person has success? That’s fair
You didn’t have to respond to this thread, this thread didn’t say hey whatiknowsofar said this about ty lue so I’m calling him out. You decided to double down on your ty lue views by saying one of the best looking teams in the playoffs wasn’t as good as their record and u got a proper response back for that
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:25 am to whatiknowsofar
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And I'm feeling generous enough to tell you that you're acting like a whole jackass itt. If the Jazz don't completely choke away a 20 pt second half lead you'd have nothing to type about this morning. Congrats to the Clippers for having a guy have the game of his life against a hobbled Jazz team. Ty Lue ain't the main reason they won last night.
The Jazz’s problem isn’t “Tye Lue is a better coach.”
If that’s your argument you’ve basically just told me you don’t know how to watch basketball.
Lue went small, which is what the playoffs afford you because you aren’t having to story about the attrition of the regular season and can go all out.
The Jazz have relied upon having enormous firepower led by the two headed combo of Conley and Mitchell facilitating that offense and Gobert manning the middle and covering up for the lack of athleticism and size the Jazz’s perimeter players have.
The team is just not well built for playoff basketball, I hate to use the word gimmick because if Mitchell is healthy I think they win this series, but it is a bit of a gimmicky team. If you can pull Gobert out the paint that defense collapses because now you are trying to guard perimeter superstars with slow footed players like Jingles, Bogdan, and undersized Royce O’Neal. Hobble Conley and Mitchell and they can’t stop a traffic cone and can’t get those shooters the ideal shots they need to burn you.
Gobert is an elite roll man but because he doesn’t pass, create his own shot, or really have any offensive repertoire besides that, he can’t take pressure off the other guys and so just like with Dallas, you can put smaller or bigger guys in him and focus on slowing the rest of the team.
Hobble the one thing that is actually keeping you at an elite level in the playoffs, Mitchell, and the Jazz become a very beatable team.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:31 am to Louisianabound88
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So it’s ok for you to say someone is terrible but not ok for me to call you out on it when that person has success?
In the context your using no it's you coming across as a jackass.
The Jazz choking
Mitchell being hurt
Mann having a game he'll probably never have again
Lue's coaching
That's the order as to why they won last night. And that first reason outweighs the rest.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:32 am to Louisianabound88
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You decided to double down on your ty lue views by saying one of the best looking teams in the playoffs wasn’t as good as their record and u got a proper response back for that
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:32 am to whatiknowsofar
K
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:36 am to whatiknowsofar
Judging from your AWESOME game threads and I’m not being sarcastic, you’re made for this internet back and forth stuff more than I am. I’m just gonna agree to disagree with you and hope we’re in the same position as the Jazz next year
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:38 am to Louisianabound88
The thing with this thread and you my man is I haven’t actually heard what you think Lue did that was so special to deserve this praise?
Simply standing on the sidelines when a superstar has a career series doesn’t make you an elite coach, if you want to make that case point me to what elite things that coach did that no other coach would have done that sets him apart and that absent that, the team wouldn’t have won?
The Clippers went small to try and neutralize Gobert’s presence, which is something many teams have had success in the playoffs with. The Rockets and Warriors set that blueprint. The counter the Jazz made was to go out and get firepower to match. But then their key initiator got injured at the beginning of the playoffs and has never fully recovered, and their best player got severely hobbled.
I need you to walk me through what Lue did that sets him apart other than follow that blueprint and watch the one remaining healthy superstar go supernova in that series?
I’m not saying Lue deserves no credit, after all he implemented the old blueprint and stuck with it. He is a good superstar manager which is important in today’s game. But do I think he is elite? No, I don’t.
Do I think he would have been better than SVG this year? Yeah, clearly. Do I think he would have us in the playoffs? No, I don’t.
Simply standing on the sidelines when a superstar has a career series doesn’t make you an elite coach, if you want to make that case point me to what elite things that coach did that no other coach would have done that sets him apart and that absent that, the team wouldn’t have won?
The Clippers went small to try and neutralize Gobert’s presence, which is something many teams have had success in the playoffs with. The Rockets and Warriors set that blueprint. The counter the Jazz made was to go out and get firepower to match. But then their key initiator got injured at the beginning of the playoffs and has never fully recovered, and their best player got severely hobbled.
I need you to walk me through what Lue did that sets him apart other than follow that blueprint and watch the one remaining healthy superstar go supernova in that series?
I’m not saying Lue deserves no credit, after all he implemented the old blueprint and stuck with it. He is a good superstar manager which is important in today’s game. But do I think he is elite? No, I don’t.
Do I think he would have been better than SVG this year? Yeah, clearly. Do I think he would have us in the playoffs? No, I don’t.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:41 am to Bronc
Ty Lue can be either an amazing coach or a piece of shite who supports terrorism, there's no in between.
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