. . And I think he can be a great player. But that being said he isn’t a good fit for this team. It’s obvious from just a few games that Kira is a much better fit. I have been a big Zo fan and believer but he doesn’t go well with Ingram and Zion. It’s as simple as that. Zo is currently better IMO than Kira but Kira will be more effective with Ingram and Zion. I also don’t think it’s a good idea to pay Zo what he will want as well

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Posted by saints5021

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:34 am to PrayingMantis

Kira is a better PG than Lonzo has ever been. Lonzo would be better suited to develop into that Bruce Bowen role. Spend entire game locking down best offensive player and hit an occasional 3

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Posted by CelticDog

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:42 am to PrayingMantis

the problem with lonzo is the next contract will not be based on performance but on future development. after a while you just have to say hes never going to be the guy you would choose #2 overall.
good but not great.
maybe he becomes great but you cannot pay for maybe.

looking at 2017 draft

I wanted Tatum. went #3
not quite what I expected.
fox went 6th or 7th and was the actual best pg choice.

spider and bam were mid round.

it's so difficult.
offer zo a short deal with requirement he works with shooting coach.
maybe the off season sees a big jump in shooting.

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Posted by fOrEvErLsU1987

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:48 am to PrayingMantis

Lonzo will never be a great or even serviceable PG as long as he can’t make a layup I mean it’s ridiculous every game he drives to an arms length of the rack then tries some behind the back no look pass straight to the stands when he has a wide open layup if a PG has no finishing skills around the rim is he still a PG?

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Posted by GOP_Tiger

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:17 am to fOrEvErLsU1987

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Lonzo will never be a great or even serviceable PG as long as he can’t make a layup

Lonzo doesn't have any dawg in him. No fire or intensity. That, more than anything, is why I want Kira out there.

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Posted by TIGERSby10

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Member since Nov 2005

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:54 pm to GOP_Tiger

Lonzo has been overated since he got into the league. Get what you can for him in a trade and move on with Kira.

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Posted by medtiger

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:34 pm to GOP_Tiger

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Lonzo doesn't have any dawg in him. No fire or intensity. That, more than anything, is why I want Kira out there.

This is correct. If you pay attention, most of his good stats come in the first 3 quarters. When he gets to the 4th quarter, especially the last half of the 4th quarter, he folds. He's not a starter on a championship level team.

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Posted by Bronc

Member since Sep 2018

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Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:24 pm to medtiger

We don’t really have another diverse iso scorer that can really play crunch time is one of the big problems.

Hopefully Kira can be part of that solution, and Zion as he fills his game out, but lonzo ain’t it and it should be one of the bigger indictments on why it’s problematic to keep him.

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