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re: Hawkins to Squadron

Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:50 pm to
You put Willie in Denver and he's going to play Justin Holiday over Strawther.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
442 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:52 pm to
Right. All 4 of y'all are just bitching to bitch. Like normal on this board these days. It's the normal on for chatbaords. I get it
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:56 pm to
Get off the board if you don’t like other fans’ opinions or can’t hold a normal argument/conversation without reverting to saying people are “bitching” or using childish responses. Did you think everyone was going to magically agree with you?
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
442 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:58 pm to
Let's not forget. Willie green has been a part of 2 championship coaching staffs. How many have u been a part of?
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:03 pm to
Lol ok thats your argument? So we can’t voice our opinions because he was on 2 championship coaching staffs?
Posted by lil 7thward
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Hawkins to Squadron
The Saints and the Pel organizations are retards.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Let's not forget. Willie green has been a part of 2 championship coaching staffs. How many have u been a part of?



Yep, Willie Green, the guy that made Steph/Klay/KD work, and b/c of that he cannot be criticized as a head coach for the Pelicans now.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:06 pm to
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And playing defense against the gleague wont get him that. You think last year okc thought guys like jalen williams and giddey should get benched and sent to gleague so kenrich williams could get minutes?? That’s essentially what Willie is doing.

I think it is more about just getting him some playing time. I cannot imagine he will be there long.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I get what your saying but its the process what bothers me. Hawkins worked his arse off and played very well. When guys get healthy, instead of finding minutes you sent him down to the gleague like hes some struggling rookie. Thats not fair to him and just a dumb process. Dyson has struggled immensely on offense- why is he not being sent to gleague?


Do you honestly think Hawkins should get minutes over Dyson?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:08 pm to
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Let's not forget. Willie green has been a part of 2 championship coaching staffs. How many have u been a part of?

The idea that Willie has done this brilliant job and there isn't a single thing we can criticize him for this season is hilarious.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
442 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:09 pm to
Not exactly, willie is still learning and has admitted. But saying Hawkins is what the pels need rn, more shooting, has taken this convo in a different direction. Green and staff think hawkins needs more run before getting minutes. While some here think a rookie shooter and less defense would change our outcomes. And that's silly. Yea I see errors in game by both players and coaching sure. But this ain't one of um.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Do you honestly think Hawkins should get minutes over Dyson?

In certain matchups/situations, yes.

The idea that Dyson gets minutes every night no matter what and Dyson gets DNPs most nights is way too lopsided at this point.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:11 pm to
I think he should share minutes with him depending on whats needed. The point I was trying to make is if we’re sending Hawkins down to the gleague because his defense isn’t great- why isn’t that same philosophy applied because Dyson’s offense isn’t that great?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:11 pm to
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Look at how Mike Malone is managing Strawther. He has a -67 net. And Malone is finding ways to get him meaningful minutes and develop him. That is a championship team and they don't even need to play him but they understand the long game and how valuable a guy like that will be if you develop him.


Hawkins has gotten more PT than Strawther.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:12 pm to
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Hawkins has gotten more PT than Strawther.
Now do the last 10 games for each...

Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12879 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:13 pm to
Due to injuries. Most of his minutes since we got healthy are off of blowouts. He's not getting meaningful minutes anymore.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
442 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:14 pm to
Najji and Trey Murphy both were sent to gleague in rookie year
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Yea I see errors in game by both players and coaching sure
Wait, you see errors in coaching?


How many titles have you won?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:19 pm to
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In certain matchups/situations, yes.

The idea that Dyson gets minutes every night no matter what and Dyson gets DNPs most nights is way too lopsided at this point.


Sorry, but DD's contribution on defense is light years ahead of Hawkins' offensive contribution at this point. I would prefer Hawkins get more minutes but I would have a hard time consistently playing him over DD. As good as we all hope Hawkins becomes, thus far he is shooting 36% from 3 and that is his main contribution. That is good, but not elite at this point. Is it good enough to move him up in the rotation? Evidently not yet.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7443 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:20 pm to
frick Willie he cannot manage a roster much less a rotation

Get rid of zion
Start Trey bring Hawkins off the bench as a shooter

Willie is a good guy but a shite coach. Please get him out of here let Borrango finish the season and see if he's the difference
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