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re: check in if you hate the trade

Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:48 pm to
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We're now seriously financially committed to the proven player. The raw, "injured" guy wouldn't eat up cap. He'd also be younger.


He's not just "injured," he had a serious injury. I get the cap argument, but isn't the perk of having cap space to use it on a proven player who will instantly add production to the team? Rather a 23 year old eat cap space than a 30 year old vet.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54217 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:48 pm to
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To be medicore. If we get a lwgit FA I'm for it. But doubt it will happen. Thunder

Clippers

Grizzlies

Warriors

Nuggets



Spurs

Rockets

Lakers

Who do we finish in front of? Lakers maybe. That's it. T wolves will be better. I dunk. I see 10th in west

We aren't making the playoffs.

Long term I don't like it but that's jmo
how many times are you going to fricking post this.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:49 pm to
Phone
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:50 pm to
Well it was wrong both times
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:50 pm to
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Not as good as Jrue


By what measure?

Lillard shoots it better, turns it over less. He's a far better offensive player, though not as good defensively.

It's a give and take between the two, but they are comparable enough overall.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:51 pm to
And no one wants to respond to it because we wont make the playoffs next year
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:52 pm to
Sure, use the cap space to add a real difference maker... a max type.

He tore his ACL, which is a pretty light injury these days. He's been checked out several times over and all said he's fine.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15366 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:52 pm to
We won't? You should change your name to Basketball Nostradamus.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:56 pm to
No we won't. And if you'd like to make a bet on it I'm all for it
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18881 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:58 pm to
Damn, now we have fans betting against their home team because we gave up Nerlens fricking Noel. Didn't know the guy was Hakeem Olajuwon.
Posted by BarbaricPelican
LaPlace
Member since Apr 2013
129 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:58 pm to
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He tore his ACL, which is a pretty light injury these days. He's been checked out several times over and all said he's fine.


Why did the Suns pass? Why did everyone pass on this "light" injury? You have to admit. That's very worrisome...
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15366 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:59 pm to
Right. I think it's just watching too much lsu basketball
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:59 pm to
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Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18881 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Why did the Suns pass? Why did everyone pass on this "light" injury? You have to admit. That's very worrisome...


Jrue would've been #1 this year based on his NBA production and easily top 3 next year. But frick it, we want the 3rd center taken in the draft and a pick outside of the top 5 next year instead of him.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:01 pm to
Your points are really stupid.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18881 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:03 pm to
What's stupid about it? Why do you so badly want Nerlens Noel, the center picked AFTER Cody Zeller and Alex Len, as well as a completely unknown pick outside of the top 5 next year, over a proven NBA PG who is only 23, has a nice contract for his production, and just played in his first All Star game?
Posted by BarbaricPelican
LaPlace
Member since Apr 2013
129 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:05 pm to
We can't hang on to cap space forever and just draft and say "okay. At least we have cap space". How many players proven and on Jrue's level really want to come here because we have some space?
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:07 pm to
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He's a far better offensive player, though not as good defensively.


Ummm. I think you got that backwards. Jrue is a far far better defender, though not quite as good of a scorer. But is not a big difference. Jrue had a better FG% the same 3 pt % but avg 1.3 pts less. Oh and Holiday had more assist. He did have more turnovers, but its not like Lillard didn't turn the ball over at a decent rate as well.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:07 pm to
I think his skill set is polarizing. In all likelihood he will never be worth a damn on offense other than putbacks/lobs/etc.

So you are drafting a potentially one-dimensional player. I don't think Noel will be a superstar, but he does have that upside. I just think his floor is pretty high, he's going to be a quality rim protector and likely elite defensive presence.

Look how Miami struggled when Duncan protected the rim. Now imagine having two guys with that defensive potential (though one who lacks on O).

And having them for low cost so you can keep adding other pieces with your cap space.

But not just Noel, I think Burke will be a more efficient player than Jrue, though he won't have the defensive potential.

I just think we tied ourselves up a bit to get marginally better.
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