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What actually happens when an album gets remastered?

Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by Run Ultra
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:33 am
Just curious if you all have any insight?

Seems like they just put remastered on there and sell more copies of the same album
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:53 am to
A lot of times, current pressings or CDs are being made off of 3rd or 4th generation copies of the master with wear occurring along the way. A true remaster is usually accompanied by a remix and will come from the original tapes.

That said, there are some that aren't much more than leveling of the original mix.
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:03 am to
Seems like whatever "remastering" that gets done on any releases from the last few years, they get ruined by all the levels being red-lined anyway...
Posted by JPLIII
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:26 am to
The band re-records it without any flaws or errors.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Seems like whatever "remastering" that gets done on any releases from the last few years, they get ruined by all the levels being red-lined anyway...



You should look into the Steven Wilson remasters. He has been a proponent of the volume knob for years.
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:59 am to
I've heard his Marillion and Yes remasters, and I agree.
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:50 pm to
One of the differences I hear seems to be that often the tracks are cleaned up. For example, on several Foreigner songs, you can hear the high hat pedal squeaking while listening with phones. On the remastered tracks you could no longer hear it.
Posted by Sayre
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:45 pm to
In the case of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Van Halen, and a bunch of others, you got the low end back that was sorely missing. They used to be very aggravating to listen to on CD because they were very thin on the bass end of things.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:50 pm to
When Dave Mustaine remastered the Megadeth catalog, he did a good job on Killing Is My Business but when he did Peace Sells, he also remixed it in such a way that it's aggravating. He pushed his guitar to the front unnecessarily and almost ruined some songs.
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

I've heard his Marillion and Yes remasters, and I agree.


I'm not following if you guys like what he did or is it a bad remastering?
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:35 pm to
I liked what he did, personally. Unlike many new releases, remasters or otherwise, you can still hear the space between the instruments on SW-helmed projects.
Posted by yesyesyall
Member since Sep 2018
242 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:44 pm to
it gets sold back into slavery. sad!
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1238 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 8:22 am to
In the purest sense ... after you record the record and mix the tracks, mastering is where you hire a high-dollar set of ears who runs your stuff through the most sophisticated of the day and INSANELY expensive equalizers, compressors, limiters, exciters, plate reverb units, etc., to knock it to the next sonic level and make the levels, the eq curves, the low end and high end ideal for current radio and current player technology and current consumers' ears.

I thought mastering in general was BS and smoke and mirrors until the first time my band at the time sent a record to a very reputable mastering house in NOLA some 20 years ago. We sent him the 16-count Crayola box and he sent us back the 64-count box with the built in crayon sharpener, man it knocked what we did from sounding minors to majors. And we "thought" we sent him what was already a great aural package. Man, he showed us.

Remastering "should" be when you take that 20 year old, 30 year old, etc. mastered record and re-run it through the newest, most sophisticated stuff in today's cutting edge mastering houses. Or get a fresh set of high-dollar ears who puts his twist, his signatures on things in regard to levels (this includes redlining), eq curves, low end/boom overall, etc. Nowadays, it can mean do the 180 and run a "new" recording through "old" technology. Re-recording an instrument's tracks with a new player because the old player got fired and sued you over royalties and you want to end his royalty stream. Simply generating a new stream of revenue on old catalog/ "classic" material because sales have become stale. All kinds of things could be called remastering.

Back to the OP, considering what I just typed, re-mastering is very vague by definition and it can very, very, very often be more of a marketing and sales tool as it is the generation of a "new and improved" product.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Steven Wilson


He remastered Chicago (1970 - or Chicago II) and many Chicago fans are blown away at what he did. I haven't heard it yet but I am curious.

I wish that some albums that were released in the 70s that had a quadraphonic mix would be released in stereo. Some quad mixes had extra guitar and the such.
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