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Welcome to the birthplace of American Music . . .

Posted on 4/10/12 at 7:52 pm
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 7:52 pm
When you're driving, and you come to the Mississippi state line you'll see this on their official state welcome signs.

I can agree that the blues are the bastard step child of African folk/gospel anthems, chants or melodies, established very early in America, but I will have to disagree with the Blues (Mississippi) being the 'Birthplace of American Music'

So .. I ask the Music Board ...
Isn't New Orleans & Jazz the true, genuine birthplace of American Music??
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:00 pm to
Jazz probably, blues no.
Posted by peaster68
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:18 pm to
Probably because of such legends as bluesman Robert Johnson of Hazlehurst, country artist Jimmie Rodgers of Meridian and rock and roll king Elvis Presley of Tupelo.
Posted by GrizzlePickle
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:43 pm to
If you really want to start getting technical about it, Louis Moreau Gottshalk (from New Orleans) was the first American to take the sounds of all the different cultures he was surrounded by to form something uniquely American. You can hear the early beginnings of Jazz in his compositions... Furthermore, he was the first American composer to be recognized by the European music establishment as "great".

Regardless, he drew influence from African tribal rhythm's, music from cubans, other expats located in New Orleans, the European establishment, et al. The earliest jazz musicians drew from his work.

However, on the subject of blues vs. jazz... Blues came first, but the distinct and quick popularity of jazz (which drew some of its influence from the blues) opened the door for the recognition of blues music. This tends to cause confusion over which came first. The blues came first, but Jazz music became popular first.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:47 pm to
Wasn't Jazz a product of the Blues? The blues was the first American genre of music so I see nothing wrong with that statement.
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

The blues was the first American genre of music


i agree. and even if jazz was "first" i feel more music over the last 50 years was directly influenced by blues rather than jazz - Jazz and blues being the 2 genres of music i would claim began in the States
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

i agree. and even if jazz was "first" i feel more music over the last 50 years was directly influenced by blues rather than jazz - Jazz and blues being the 2 genres of music i would claim began in the States


yes,
but jazz being the original 'form'
of American music...
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 8:58 pm
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:08 pm to
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but jazz being the original 'form'


there is definitely a valid point there
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

but jazz being the original 'form' of American music



I disagree. Blues came about first. Like another person said Jazz may have grown popular at an earlier date but Jazz took influences directly from the Blues.

Regardless I think its pretty badass that american music began in this river delta.
Posted by GrizzlePickle
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:18 pm to
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Regardless I think its pretty badass that american music began in this river delta.


... And the fact that both forms continue to influence some of the best bands and musicians to listen to.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:20 pm to
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And the fact that both forms continue to influence all of the best bands and musicians to listen to.



FIFY
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 5:26 am to
quote:

Regardless I think its pretty badass that american music began in this river delta.


thats a good point
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