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Songwriters of the MB with home recording setups: how do I get started?

Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67090 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:11 pm
I just recently got an Presonus Audiobox i2 for Christmas which comes preloaded with Studio One. I'm trying to build an inexpensive home recording setup for myself and my band. I will mostly be recording guitar, bass, and vocals just to put together song ideas, not making finished recordings for selling online or anything. What are the minimimum amounts of equipment I will need as far as chords, mics, speakers, ect?

I'm not looking to do anything fancy, just trying to get the basics so I can stop recording ideas on my phone.

So inputs for guitars?

Inputs for keyboards?

cheap speakers?

cheap headphones?

Mics for vocals? I have an AKG 220. Will that work for amps and vocals?
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted by SpyBoy
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
943 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:25 pm to
Well, you'll need a decent mic and an xlr cable just as a baseline. You can do a lot of what you said with one decent condenser if you are truly looking to just put together demos. Hell, one dynamic mic can be enough in a pinch, though its certainly not ideal for vocals.

Looks like your little box has two of the 1/4"/xlr combo inputs, so you can go straight in to it with instruments if you choose, though that will clearly produce different sound than what you hear out of your amp.

ive done a bunch of mediocre demos with little tweaking and editing just by mic'ing everything and using headphones (I dont have studio monitors). sometimes i'll plug a bass in direct.

Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:27 pm to
I'm from the old school so I can tell you the most important thing when recording.... You ready? Get someone who knows what they are doing be it you, your drummer or your next door neighbors son. Someone needs to know how to keep the sound levels "level" and not too hot and also to know what "master volume" means. I love recording. The world is your oyster. No rules.... Do what you like. Good luck.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:30 pm to
A zoom 8 track goes for about $250 on ebay and it's easy to use. It can only record 2 instruments at a time though but is awesome with built in effects and copy/paste features. Of course each track can be edited with low, mid and high EQ and parameter effect also. LOVE MY ZOOM 8 TRACK.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67090 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:34 pm to
I'm looking to learn as much as I can in my spare time. At this point, I'm hoping to just get it by trial and error, but I'd really love to have a steady hand who knows what they're doing to show me the ropes. I have dozens of songs that I want to get down on record, and feel the need to get to the point where I can just sit down and pour all of those songs I've been writing for years and years out into my computer.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:56 pm to
kingbob - Just remember that you need to decide if you are recording for just a demo or recording and then "mastering" to sell your product that you recorded. If you record it right you don't need to hire a mastering guy if you get your levels close to perfect/correct when you are doing the initial recording. Recording is one thing but "dumping" your recording to a source to make copies to give away or sell is another issue.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67090 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 4:49 pm to
I'm just starting out. These recordings are for my personal use only, at most for making demos.

I've got a guy my band has gone to for recording serious EP's and albums for sale. He and his roommate recorded, cut, mixed, and mastered our debut EP last summer. It's worth it for his equipment and expertise, which I am not trying to replicate, at least not any time soon.

I'm just trying to learn what equipment I need to get started, where to go to best learn how to use said equipment, and what parts to target in the future for over time upgrading my rig to become more and more capable at producing increasingly better recordings. I've got to learn to crawl before I can walk and before I can run.

I did buy a mic today: AKG P220.
Posted by 54BogTiger
Bogalusa
Member since Aug 2004
257 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:07 pm to
Sweetwater just had home studio monitors buy 1 get 1 free on presonus models. Nabbed a set for $250 for Christmas.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:22 pm to
You're going to want a Shure SM57 Mic to record any guitars.

Especially metal.
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
1930 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:19 pm to
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ETA: This is exactly what I have. Very inexpensive and will do just about anything you want.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12280 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:41 pm to
Sounds like you already have a condenser mic for Vocals/ acoustic intruments.

Get a SM57 for amps/percussion. This mic can do it all.

The Mackie CR3 reference speakers would be a good start that's not too inexpensive

AKG K240 headphones are the headphones you'll find in every studio in the World.

Since your device only has two inputs, you'll need to get a small mixer if you want to record more tracks/Mics at once.

You would then just go left/right out of the mixer into your Audiobox.

Let me know if you have any questions
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67090 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:44 am to
Any recommendations for mixers? I was thinking I would need one if I was going to record drums in the future.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12280 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Any recommendations for mixers? I was thinking I would need one if I was going to record drums in the future.


I'm a fan of almost anything made by Mackie or Yamaha. From there it really depends on how many inputs you want and how much you want to spend. You may also want to get one with built in effects since wouldnt be able to, for example, put reverb on an individual snare mic once you send it to your Audiobox as a left/right mix.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27969 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:44 pm to
I use a Boss digital 8 track recorder. It's portable and fairly easy to use,if you are just doing a couple of guitar parts and vocal,and that's about all I ever do.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36517 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:28 pm to
I have the newest model Peavey 6 channel Mixer with FX and it is worth every bit of the 175$ I paid for it! Even recording your vocals it is great. For a keyboard, you can get yourself a cheap midi controller, and it will work perfect with Pre Sonus. I have thousands of hours recording on pre Sonus, and the midi controllers are easy to use. When doing your recording for vocals, experiment, but my best advice for main vocals for verses is to do 1 great take and clone and stack it, pan one of them to about 50 to the right and one to about 50 to the left, and keep one in the middle. You can add reverb to the main one or the outside set of vocals. On chorus, take a few stacked takes to make it sound fuller. That is a standard sound for now days music, and add whatever effects sound cool to you. Have some fun and experiment
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