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re: Pink Floyd-what makes them great?
Posted on 4/25/15 at 7:58 am to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 4/25/15 at 7:58 am to Tigertown in ATL
To me, The Floyd are rooted in blues. Their focus shifted after Syd left and Gilmour stepped up to the forefront. Waters became a tremendous bass player in the process. He played the bass as if it were a lead instrument; as did Wright and Mason. Their abilities allowed Gilmour the free space to operate in and create intricate yet delicate solos that defined their sound for many years.
My favourite time period is from Atom Heart Mother to DSOTM because you can listen to them evolve and perfect their formula with DSOTM. Wish you were Here and Animals are like title defenses in boxing but they also signaled a shift towards Waters's style that was perfected on The Wall. The rest participated but from '75 thru '83 it wasn't the same collaboration as it was from '70 thru '73.
Obscured by Clouds is the last album they did before DSOTM and it shows a polished band that was starting to peak. It is the most underrated album they did and should be considered as one of the best.
My favourite time period is from Atom Heart Mother to DSOTM because you can listen to them evolve and perfect their formula with DSOTM. Wish you were Here and Animals are like title defenses in boxing but they also signaled a shift towards Waters's style that was perfected on The Wall. The rest participated but from '75 thru '83 it wasn't the same collaboration as it was from '70 thru '73.
Obscured by Clouds is the last album they did before DSOTM and it shows a polished band that was starting to peak. It is the most underrated album they did and should be considered as one of the best.
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 8:52 am to RoyalBaby
I <3 this thread
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:27 am to RoyalBaby
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Waters became a tremendous bass player in the process.
I think this is too strong. Certainly he was right for Floyd - and even innovative at times - but I cannot subscribe to the opinion that Waters is a technically gifted musician. It worked, however, because Mason wasn't a virtuoso, either. They worked together as a rhythm section, though, and it complimented the music.
On the other hand, while Waters gets a lot of praise as a lyricist, I think he is underrated for his ability to write the underlying music and perhaps as an arranger and producer. As you indicated, the more time went on, the more Pink Floyd became the instrument of Waters' vision.
If you are more of a fan of the post-Barrett Floyd music (as I am), the more one must credit Waters, flawed as he was. Gilmour, the true virtuoso (at least for the period we're discussing) of the group is a fine songwriter in his own right (ETA: And again, I'm ignoring Rick - Wright was also, rightly, considered a virtuoso on keys, at least for a rock band - he was one of the very best), but was increasingly overshadowed by Waters' creative vision until the split.
But, a great band that is on the short list of those bands defining rock music in the 1970s. And one of the most influential acts since The Beatles (on par, influence-wise, as Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, The Who, and the Rolling Stones - those 6 would probably mark the Top 6 British bands of all time).
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:27 am to WG_Dawg
Wots uh the deal is one of the most perfect songs ever written.
David Gilmour - Wots uh the deal
David Gilmour - Wots uh the deal
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:35 am to Ace Midnight
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worked together as a rhythm section
Read about the recording process for One of These Days and Gilmour's comments. Pre-DSOTM was the height of the "band". The premise behind the Ummagumma album is what eventually led to DSOTM's polished sound just a few years later. They learned to create and collaborate during their work on the Zabrieskie Point Soundtrack and Obscured by Clouds is the perfected version of their work on an album that doesn't have a real central theme.
Gilmour has said that their last real collaboration was on the last jam sequence of Shine on you Crazy Diamond. After '75 it turned into individuals working on their own music and bringing it to the group as a concept.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 12:57 pm to Ace Midnight
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And it is fair to suggest that Rick is criminally underrated. One of the most gifted musicians to ever play the keys in a rock and roll band - and he was perfect for what Floyd was doing, particularly in the post-Barrett era.
RW organ seemed to be the engine that powered the whole thing, really strange the way it worked.
I've said it here before, you want PF at their absolute finest, a brilliant combo of youth, experience and technical mastery, the Pompeii video and recordings are money, we are fortunate that was captured.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:35 pm to Easye921
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Wots uh the deal is one of the most perfect songs ever written.
there was as gilmour thread on here last week and I said in there that I've considered having it played at my funeral, if it weren't a bit too long for that type of setting. That guitar work towards towards the end is just so pleasant and satisfying, I could listen to it everyday.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:34 pm to Othello
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This thread makes me happy. Anytime I see someone in a Floyd shirt, I'm glad to see it.
I just bought my 2 year old daughter her first one
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:10 pm to LoneStarTiger
David Gilmour is the most expressive guitarist of all time, in my opinion. There's nobody better at using a guitar to convey a specific feeling, emotion, or atmosphere.
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