re: My buddy says linkin park is better than rage against the machine and Metallica

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Aside from that they also grew out of their nu-mental sound and went into different genres of rock which gave them a wider audience and fresher sound.

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They didn't so much "grow out of" their nu-metal sound. The non Chester/Shinoda/Hahn members of the band wanted to do more than play power chords to compliment those 3.

I love early LP. Reanimation is one of the most underrated albums I've ever heard. The balls to remix Hybrid Theory as the follow up is pretty out there. And then you look at the "special guests" they pulled into that album.

Chali 2na - Jurassic 5
Black Thought - the Roots
Stephen Richards - Taproot
Jonathan Davis - Korn
Aaron Lewis - Staind
Stephen Carpenter - Deftones

That's a pretty diverse and noteworthy roster. They followed up an 8 digit sold album with a remix of that album. Again, who does that? Even more ridiculous, a chunk of the songs are BETTER than the originals.

Collision Course with Jay-Z? Very few bands could have pulled that off.

You may not like the music, but early Linkin Park pushed the envelope.

Everything post Minutes to Midnight is generic garbage though.

Post M2M LP just sounds like a band devoid of any discernible identity, scrambling to find a way to balance 6 members instead of putting your "elite 3" front and center.

The combination of Hahn/Chester/Shinoda made them special. They should have been a massive band that continued to evolve. Instead, they became an amphitheater level band coasting off the merits of albums and styles well in their rearview.

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I don’t know how linkin park became popular. Might be my least favorite band

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With you here. Just don't get them, I guess.