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Gigging Musicians, how do you handle taxes on W9 forms?

Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:59 am
Quick question for any of you who have to fill out W9 forms for gigs. How do you typically take into account taxes that'll be taken out? We usually get paid cash (and not much) for gigs so I haven't had this issue come up.

We are playing a festival gig on Memorial Day, paying $1,500. They require all vendors to fill out a W9. We aren't big enough to have an LLC so I just filled it out as an individual so I'll be the only one taxed next year. Do you (or whoever books the gig) just reduce the total payout for everyone or do you have everyone fill out their own W9?

We have a few more gigs like this coming up so I am trying to think ahead. Thanks in advance .
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 1:21 pm to
live dangerously and don't report them, or just have one guy in the band that has to take the hit.

I've only had to fill out an I-9 a couple times for shows at the House of Blues in New Orleans where we weren't getting paid more than a couple hundred bucks, so it was nbd. $1500 is a little more noticeable. If you're to the point that you're getting $1,500/show, I think it's probably time to make an LLC to manage the money.

ETA: what's the gig?
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 2:01 pm to
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If you're to the point that you're getting $1,500/show


Definitely not the norm which is why I am asking. Usually its the typical $100/p for local restaurant and bar gigs or a bit more for private parties.

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live dangerously and don't report them, or just have one guy in the band that has to take the hit.


I am a pretty Xs and Os guy when it comes to finances so I definitely don't want to have anything outstanding. Just thinking of options.

It's a Memorial Day event for a local township. All covers.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12810 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 2:17 pm to
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think it's probably time to make an LLC to manage the money.


Isn't it a decent idea to have one anyway? Like a mic stand hits some drunk and he wants to sue.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Isn't it a decent idea to have one anyway? Like a mic stand hits some drunk and he wants to sue


It may be. Never really thought about it honestly. Like I mentioned above we are playing at bars or restaurants 90% of the time. I always assumed that any liability was covered under them. Is that not the case?
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12810 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 2:45 pm to
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always assumed that any liability was covered under them. Is that not the case?


I honestly am not the best one to ask, the only bands I've been involved with had LLCs but they were larger outfits with double digit members. Not sure exactly what that does for you.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7920 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 4:55 pm to
Taxes?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:39 pm to
You sound like a budding manager eager to rip someone off
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10995 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:52 pm to
I would take out some from everyone’s pay to cover it and give yourself a little extra because you have to deal with the tax crap.
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1413 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:12 am to
There should be expenses to offset that. Pay mileage to members driving to the gig and buy equipment.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:01 pm to
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You sound like a budding manager eager to rip someone off


For asking a question about how other groups handle tax implications? Don't project your insecurities from past mistakes on me.

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There should be expenses to offset that. Pay mileage to members driving to the gig and buy equipment.


I may look into that. Sounds like it could just be easier to do an LLC and get paid through there for future stuff like this. I upgraded our sound system last year so I wonder if I can roll that under an LLC too.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 1:04 pm
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