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For those of you who record music: advice sought

Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:06 pm
I've been recording all of my guitar tracks via direct input (Audiobox USB).

1. I would like to make it sound more like an acoustic guitar without having to rerecord. How do I get the effects packages to work with my already recorded tracks?

2. I'm trying to get a one song demo finished on my home recording rig by the end of next week. I feel like I have enough vocal and rhythm guitar tracks to stitch together a good demo, but my lead guitar needs a lot of work and I'm debating about adding sample drums. I know the audiobox usb has pre-recorded drum tracks I can add to it, any idea how?

Any other various recording tips would be appreciated.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:25 pm to
All programs are different. I can help if you're using Pro Tools.

In the future, mic up your guitar at the same time as you're going direct in.

Ah, I guess you recorded with an electric
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

All programs are different. I can help if you're using Pro Tools.

In the future, mic up your guitar at the same time as you're going direct in.

Ah, I guess you recorded with an electric


I'm running Studio One

Yeah, I definitely would have done that if I had a decent acoustic/electric, but alas, I do not. I've been trying to avoid having to experiment with micing my classical guitar or micing my amp for this project especially since my rhythm guitar parts are already recorded and sound really tight.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:36 pm to
I will say, no matter the program, it's really hard to undo what can't be undone. If there is distortion of any kind on the recorded track, it will be near impossible to make it sound acoustic
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

If there is distortion of any kind on the recorded track, it will be near impossible to make it sound acoustic


There is none. It's just the clean input from my guitar straight into the interface (not even run through an amp). No effects have been added.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:04 pm to
Have you tried using a touch of reverb? Also, maybe add some body through your EQ to give it some acoustic like body. I'm just not familiar with the plug ins for your program.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:06 pm to
Me neither, that's why I came here. I just got it about 6 months ago, but this is my first time really using it. I'm still learning and was hoping someone else on here who knows Studio One could give me a little guidance.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:17 pm to
I'm sorry but you are not going to get a decent acoustic sound with an electric guitar. I suggest just get a decent acoustic guitar. It's a good investment and plays much different than an electric. The sound is much fuller/richer. I play both but when I write songs I just pull out my acoustic. I know this is not what you asked but I just want to advise against you banking on this song having an acoustic sound to it without using a proper guitar.
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
1929 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

I suggest just get a decent acoustic guitar.


Assuming I'm reading what's being asked correctly, this is the best answer. My recordings sound much better after having started using my Taylor. I never plug in. I always felt like when you just mic up your acoustic guitar you get a more rich sound from the room.

Eta: I use reaper and have downloaded prerecorded drum tracks. I've only used those once but I had to use a click track while laying down rhythm since I wasn't playing with live drums.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Assuming I'm reading what's being asked correctly, this is the best answer. My recordings sound much better after having started using my Taylor. I never plug in. I always felt like when you just mic up your acoustic guitar you get a more rich sound from the room.


I will keep that in mind when I have a spare grand lying around with which to buy a decent instrument. Until then, I guess I'll be recording on a wing and a prayer

quote:

I've only used those once but I had to use a click track while laying down rhythm since I wasn't playing with live drums.


Already done, so that wouldn't be a problem.
Posted by DarthSabanFredo
Pina Coladaburg
Member since Apr 2007
214 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:33 pm to
I would just double up on the rhythm track using the classical, and blend to taste in the mix with your clean electric. I'm assuming when you say you have a classical you're talking about a classical acoustic right?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27918 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:50 pm to
First of all,what is the purpose of the demo? Are you showing off the song,or yourself?
If it is a song demo,don't worry too much about what guitar you are using,just get it down clean and clear(don't add any guitar breaks).Then send it to a good Nashville demo studio,and let them record it,it's not expensive. They will put a great singer on it,and make it sound like a hit for $300 bucks.

If you are showcasing yourself,then use the right guitar and try to make everything perfect.

That said.. a few years ago, a friend of mine had an effects pedal that made an electric sound like an acoustic.It sounded pretty good live,don't know how it would be for recording though.
I don't remember the name or brand of the pedal,but maybe someone at a good music store could tell you more.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:45 pm to
I remember boss had a pedal like that AC-2 maybe?

I gotta believe there's a software plugin out there that does the same thing now.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:44 am to
quote:

I remember boss had a pedal like that AC-2 maybe?

I used one a long time ago but I sold it cause I didn't really need it. I was surprised at how much it made it sound like an acoustic. You're not gonna get a Taylor $2k acoustic with condenser mic sound out of it but it will sound like an acoustic.

Different combinations of pickups/input volume will really determine how close you get to acoustic tone. That and a compressor.

I'm sure there's a plugin now that does the same thing.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27918 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:00 am to
One reason I like using an actual digital recorder,it has effects inputs,so you can use pedals when you mix out.
Posted by Whatevermang
neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2016
23 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 6:54 pm to
If you can't get an acoustic guitar, you can buy a peddle to run your electric guitar through that can simulate the acoustic sound. Won't help you with what's already been laid down, though.

Depending on how skilled you are in the program, you can duplicate your tracks, throw on heavy reverb and then put one (if you are using 2 layers) on a slight delay. You can do 4 layers and put 2 on a slight delay- so on and so forth.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:05 am to
quote:

Won't help you with what's already been laid down, though.

May be able to send the signal out through the acoustic simulator pedal and then back to record on another track. Some people record clean guitar this way and then re-amp using an actual amp.

Obviously the more you do stuff like this the more risk for sound degradation but it's possible.

Could even burn the guitar track to a cd, play that through the acoustic simulator and then into the computer.
Posted by Whatevermang
neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2016
23 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:04 am to
This is true. He runs the risk of losing some clarity in the range, but it may not make a huge difference. Not a bad idea at all.

I'd avoid mixing it down to a cd first because it will be compressed to shite.
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