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David (Bowie) Live (74), very underrated

Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:03 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:03 am
Forget Bowie, some damn fine guitar work.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:40 am to
Earl Slick was 22, baw. He's not yet 70.

I should remember him in those "undderrated" guitarist threads because he qualifies.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:08 am to
Not to diminish or tarnish... it certainly help's to have surrounded yourself with the talent he has.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Not to diminish or tarnish... it certainly help's to have surrounded yourself with the talent he has.




At a certain point, Bowie drew talent to him, not the other way around (bolstered by talent) - I mean, this was after The Spiders from Mars (who were a beastly backing band). Bowie could make 4 phone calls and get 4 world class musicians to play with him anytime, anywhere - even in the early/mid 1970s when he was still in his 20s.

As a solo artist affiliated with the rock genre, he was the most influential since Dylan and, maybe Elvis. Only folks like Maca (and that is based heavily on his collaborative work with the Beatles) are even in the same conversation for that era and even afterwards.

Obviously the bands (Stones, Zeppelin, Sabbath, The Who) were highly influential on what came afterwards, but as an individual Bowie was the 70s Dylan, folks emulated his look, sound, style, fashion, the whole megillah - arguably all of Glam, some progressive rock, New Wave and 80s hair metal bands all took cues from Bowie.
Posted by Shockthamonkey
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:24 pm to
Bowie's bands were always incredible. But his management constantly screwed the band and he was dealing with band members getting pissed off and quitting or threatening to quit all of the time.

Bowie's song writing process was also helter skelter and pieced together rather than the juggernaut you imagine when you listen to his albums.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Bowie's bands were always incredible. But his management constantly screwed the band and he was dealing with band members getting pissed off and quitting or threatening to quit all of the time.

Bowie's song writing process was also helter skelter and pieced together rather than the juggernaut you imagine when you listen to his albums.




The collaboration side, no question was all over the place with the Bowie "organization" (for lack of a better term). He was also big on reinventing himself. Although he was commercially successful, he was an example of a true artist with all the connotations associated with that.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 5:04 pm to
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At a certain point, Bowie drew talent to him, not the other way around (bolstered by talent)
Ok, was just being nice.

However if I had know you were going to follow up with

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most influential since Dylan and, maybe Elvis


This thread would of have existed with two less entries.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 5:11 pm to
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Ok, was just being nice.



I get he wasn't everyone's cup of tea - certainly not mine. I didn't really even consider much of it until I was much older myself.

However, denying he was insanely influential on succeeding generations of musicians, especially rock musicians is not strictly supportable. I mean a lot of that influence was stylistic, but it is, IMHO, undeniable.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:58 pm to
Miles Davis had that gift of attracting talent as well
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:52 pm to
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The Spiders from Mars (who were a beastly backing band


I wouldn't say that. They sounded like an actual band rather than a collection of backing musicians and Live: Santa Monica '72 is generally considered a better live recording than Live 74. I loved Mick Ronson's sound.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:34 pm to
Its one of the best. Have it on vinyl. One of my favorites.
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