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Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by TwinkleToez
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:21 pm to
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You like Iron Maiden, but you don't like metal? Does not compute.



when did i say that i didn't like metal



Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4557 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:22 pm to
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I like only elements of prog metal, but not as a genre.
I can appreciate the musicianship, but I can't listen to 11-13 minute songs, all the time. That's just my personal preference.

A long epic song on an album should be special. Like say, Rime of the Ancient Mariner or Halloween on Keepers, Part 1.

I loved Fates Warning and Queensryche up until they both went almost full on prog.




I know what you mean.

For me I don't mind the long songs as much as I hate all the damn ballads that prog bands feel like they must do.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17712 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:22 pm to
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I was very disappointed in it myself. Only one song was I was really entertained by. I LOVED their first few albums, but the last two were just kinda meh to me.


I hear ya, I think Sacrament was their best work.
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:25 pm to
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I know what you mean.

For me I don't mind the long songs as much as I hate all the damn ballads that prog bands feel like they must do.


And what's amusing to me, is that I remember the ad for Fates Warning's "Awaken the Guardian"(masterpiece, by the way) that it was "progressive metal".
I think they were the first or one of the very first to get called that.
But those first 3 albums with Arch on vocals are nowhere near the Dream Theaters of the world.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4557 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:28 pm to
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Not really a fan of all these genres and sub genres that we have come up with. Funny, when Queensryche first came out many people thought they were a speed metal band.

I appreciate hard, darker rock regardless of how it's classified.


Sometimes knowing the genres are useful especially when suggesting a band to someone. However, it becomes difficult when people try to break up genres that sound very much alike and often borrow from each other. For all intents and purposes power metal and prog metal are almost indistinguishable...until they are ( ).

It also becomes very difficult to classify certain bands. For example how would one classify the band Nevermore? I've seen them classified as thrash metal, speed metal, progressive metal, power metal and traditional heayy metal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:29 pm to
Not a big fan of some of the recent metal, but do like some of the Textures stuff.

Textures - To erase a lifetime
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:30 pm to
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For all intents and purposes power metal and prog metal are almost indistinguishable...until they are



100% totally agree.

The way I describe new/unknown bands is usually not by genre, but by what known bands they sound like.
Just yesterday I described Porcupine Tree to someone as Tool meets Stone Roses meets Pink Floyd.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4557 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:37 pm to
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And what's amusing to me, is that I remember the ad for Fates Warning's "Awaken the Guardian"(masterpiece, by the way) that it was "progressive metal".
I think they were the first or one of the very first to get called that.
But those first 3 albums with Arch on vocals are nowhere near the Dream Theaters of the world.



Very true. A lot of those older prog-metal bands are very different than what most define as prog metal these days. Queensryche really sounds nothing like Dream Theater or Symphony X, yet Queensryche is almost always considered prog-metal (same as Fate's Warning).

Dream Theater I think shifted a lot of what people came to expect from Prog Metal. Dream Theater in my opinion was to prog-metal what Metallica was to thrash.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4557 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:37 pm to
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when did i say that i didn't like metal


You shook your head in disappointment at having a metal thread.
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