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WWII Movies - Which Are More Accurate?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:52 pm
I'm Watching the movie "The G.I. Joe Story". I've never seen or heard of it before. It came out in 1945, and stars Burgess Meredith as a war correspondent/columnist. It's a pretty good movie. But Watching this movie, has me wondering and I ask this board.....
Which do you believe is the more accurate representation of WWII. Movies like this, and others, that came out during or immediately after the war? Or the more modern movies, like Saving Private Ryan, Schinleders List, Pearl Harbor, Dunkirk, etc,
Curious how as to what this board thinks..,,
Which do you believe is the more accurate representation of WWII. Movies like this, and others, that came out during or immediately after the war? Or the more modern movies, like Saving Private Ryan, Schinleders List, Pearl Harbor, Dunkirk, etc,
Curious how as to what this board thinks..,,
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:06 pm to Darkknight
The Longest Day, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Das Boot, Come and See, Letters from Iwo Jima, Stalingrad (1993), A Bridge Too Far
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:31 pm to Darkknight
SPR beach scene is very accurate. Lots of inaccuracies following that.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:32 pm to Shiftyplus1
Tora! Tora! Tora! Is pretty much regarded as about the most accurate major Hollywood war movie of them all. Hell, its own directors even tried to make it as much of a documentary as possible.
Longest Day has innacuracies and Hollywood fluff during the battle scenes.
Longest Day has innacuracies and Hollywood fluff during the battle scenes.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:39 pm to Darkknight
Having read the book and having met some of the men who were involved, Black Hawk Down is remarkably accurate.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:49 pm to Shiftyplus1
Yeah, Stalingrad.
I would put that at #1.
I would put that at #1.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:50 pm to Jack Ruby
The Longest Day does a great job of showing the generals from each side and their thoughts on what was and what might happen. It also has many parts played by men who actually fought in the battles that they were in on screen. Some of the dialogue is taken from soldiers' and commanders' diaries, and they even hired Axis and Allied commanders to provide technical advice. All of the characters are real people who were there. Even the title "The Longest Day", was from a direct quote given by Rommel, "For the Germans and the allies it will indeed be the longest day."
But no, it does not portray the true horrors of the D-Day landings and war in general, because it was made in 1962. But in terms of people, places, mood, outcomes, and the big picture of June 6th, 1944 from both sides, The Longest Day is easily one of the most accurate representations of how everything happened.
But no, it does not portray the true horrors of the D-Day landings and war in general, because it was made in 1962. But in terms of people, places, mood, outcomes, and the big picture of June 6th, 1944 from both sides, The Longest Day is easily one of the most accurate representations of how everything happened.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:58 am to Shiftyplus1
Not sure how accurate A Bridge too Far is but it’s one of my favorite WWII movies.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:17 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Not sure how accurate A Bridge too Far is but it’s one of my favorite WWII movies.
It's pretty close to the book. Lots of little details in the movie that you may not even notice, but are written about in the book.
Cornelius Ryan is my favorite ww2 book author. He also wrote The Longest Day.
A side note this guy directed A Bridge Too Far. Hammond from Jurassic park. Richard Attenborough he also directed Gandhi, A Chorus Line, Cry Freedom among others.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 8:29 am
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:40 am to Darkknight
As far as gore and grit and the combat experience, I would imagine Saving Private Ryan would be up there as a top choice. That was something that would not have been made in the first decade or so after the war. Too raw, and just different movie standards in general. The same for Band of Brothers and the Pacific.
I think Twelve O'Clock High is considered one of the best early post-war movies to demonstrate the mental stress of the war. It focuses on a bomber group, but the wider message can be read loud and clear.
Attack starring a young Jack Palance is an excellent example of an early anti-war film.
If you want details, you can't go wrong with The Longest Day, Tora Tora Tora, the Battle of Britain, etc. I'm sure there are inaccuracies and all, but overall they are well done.
I think Twelve O'Clock High is considered one of the best early post-war movies to demonstrate the mental stress of the war. It focuses on a bomber group, but the wider message can be read loud and clear.
Attack starring a young Jack Palance is an excellent example of an early anti-war film.
If you want details, you can't go wrong with The Longest Day, Tora Tora Tora, the Battle of Britain, etc. I'm sure there are inaccuracies and all, but overall they are well done.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:59 am to Darkknight
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"The G.I. Joe Story". I've never seen or heard of it before.
FYI, it's no coincidence that the movie shares the name for the original G.I. Joe action figure. The head of research and development saw the Ernie Pyle movie on TV one night and realized it would be the perfect catch-all name for their new toy.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:09 am to Darkknight
Others have already brought up Tora, Tora, Tora so I won't beat that dead horse.
I don't know that it would fit as a "war" movie but Schlinder's List was fairly accurate.
I don't know that it would fit as a "war" movie but Schlinder's List was fairly accurate.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:19 am to TheFonz
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I think Twelve O'Clock High is considered one of the best early post-war movies to demonstrate the mental stress of the wa
I think A Walk In The Sun was considered by returning GI's to be true to how platoon combat was in the war. I also heard Battleground was also considered this way as well.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:37 am to blueboy
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Having read the book and having met some of the men who were involved, Black Hawk Down is remarkably accurate.
We were fighting in Somalia with Black Hawk helicopters in WW2?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:38 am to Darkknight
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Pearl Harbor
Was a complete dog.
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Dunkirk
The Spitfire gliding for what seemed like an eternity was absolutely one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a movie.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:41 am to jimbeam
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Lots of inaccuracies following that.
What bothered me was the beginning with Private Mellish (the jew). He gets on the beach, they kill some germans, and secure the beach. Then he says something to a German about his rabbi, and then breaks down and starts crying.
From what i took from that scene, it was meant to show how emotional Mellish was fighting against the Germans, who are killing his people.
However, the concentration camps weren't known about, nor discovered until long after the D-Day invasion. So how could he know that the Jews were being mass murdered if it didn't happen yet?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:43 am to Darkknight
The Execution of Private Slovik was pretty accurate...
Who has actually seen this one from Martin Sheen's early days?
Who has actually seen this one from Martin Sheen's early days?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:21 am to BugAC
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However, the concentration camps weren't known about, nor discovered until long after the D-Day invasion. So how could he know that the Jews were being mass murdered if it didn't happen yet?
I don't recall the specifics of this scene (i.e. whether Mellish specifically talks about the concentration camps or is just upset at the treatment of Jews), but the violence against Jews had already started and would have been widely known. Kristallnacht was in the 30's if I'm not mistaken, he may have been emotional about them being herded into ghettos before even hearing about the camps
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:34 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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quote:Having read the book and having met some of the men who were involved, Black Hawk Down is remarkably accurate. We were fighting in Somalia with Black Hawk helicopters in WW2?
This actually sounds like a good Sci-fi action/ time travel film that can be made lol
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:55 am to Shiftyplus1
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The Longest Day
Had a half dozen or more actors who actually participated in the operation, plus so many others who were veterans and even more as consultants, the vibe of that movie holds up, even if filmmaking techniques couldn't quite capture it as well as things like SPR would do decades later.
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Tora! Tora! Tora!
Probably going to remain the definitive film about Pearl Harbor for the rest of time.
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A Bridge Too Far
The Longest Day had an extraordinary cast for its day, but some folks weren't quite legendary yet. But A Bridge Too Far has, almost inarguably, the most pure Hollywood horsepower, man-for-man, actor-for-actor than any other film ever made. This is with essentially 1 female speaking role of any significance:
Dirk Bogarde
Sean Connery
Ryan O'Neal
Edward Fox
Gene Hackman
Michael Byrne
Anthony Hopkins
James Caan
Maximillian Schell
Elliott Gould
Denholm Elliott
Laurence Olivier
Robert Redford
And that's not even getting to the dozens of prolific actors that most recognize like George Innes and John Ratzenberger.
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