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re: Which Futuristic Movie do you think is Most Plausible?
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:38 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:38 am to TigerinATL
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Have you not seen the advances they're making in robotics and machine intelligence?
Someone has to maintain the machines. There will still be work that needs to be done. I think the concept that your situation relies on is called the Luddite Phallacy.
I guess it's possible get to the point to where computers take care of everything. First of all, I don't buy that happening. Second of all that is a different future than the decay and rampant stupidity in Idiocracy. Maybe the machines take over like the Matrix or Terminator in that future.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:44 am to Dr. Zoidberg
The 5th element or Star Trek
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:48 am to Peazey
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Someone has to maintain the machines.
Not 7 Billion someones.
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There will still be work that needs to be done.
Not the kind of work most people are qualified for. This is very different from past technology shifts where after some brief disruption new opportunities were created for people. In 20 years if you still go to a store, there will be no need for a human to work there other than to oversee the machines. Most jobs on the lower end of the economy will either become completely automated, or automated to the point where human labor will be completely marginalized. The people with jobs will be the people that tell the machines what to do. What are humans going to do when the machines are better than them at 70% of the jobs in the economy? Even if you can come up with more "skilled" jobs, most people are not going to be qualified or even trainable for higher skilled jobs.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:51 am to TigerinATL
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Not the kind of work most people are qualified for. This is very different from past technology shifts where after some brief disruption new opportunities were created for people. In 20 years if you still go to a store, there will be no need for a human to work there other than to oversee the machines. Most jobs on the lower end of the economy will either become completely automated, or automated to the point where human labor will be completely marginalized. The people with jobs will be the people that tell the machines what to do. What are humans going to do when the machines are better than them at 70% of the jobs in the economy? Even if you can come up with more "skilled" jobs, most people are not going to be qualified or even trainable for higher skilled jobs.
This gives me hope for the legal profession. All that wriggle room is currently very difficult to replicate in a machine. I hope that keeps up.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:53 am to Dr. Zoidberg
Probably Idiocracy but I think they got it only half right. There will be this population of functional idiots and another society of super intelligent people. The human race is Boyd to have an evolutionary split sometime.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:04 pm to swamie
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Like the title said on Reddit. Detroit is right on target for Robocop to happen.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:09 pm to Dr. Zoidberg
V for Vendetta. But I wish it were Star Wars or Firefly cause my lifelong dream is to be a space smuggler.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:12 pm to TigerinATL
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Not the kind of work most people are qualified for.
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Even if you can come up with more "skilled" jobs, most people are not going to be qualified or even trainable for higher skilled jobs.
Maybe the current population isn't qualified. Who knows what skills and abilities the future population will have. Despite popular opinion, more people are more educated than they have ever been at any point in human history.
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What are humans going to do when the machines are better than them at 70% of the jobs in the economy
I don't have any idea what skills, services, and producrs the market will demand in the future. I know that they will be different than what is demanded today. I also know that most people will not be satisfied just sitting around. Something has to occupy our time. As an example. The U.S. has been less of a good producing economy. As a result more people have gotten jobs providing services.
Really, it makes my head kind of hurt thinking about all the possibilities.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:33 pm to Dr. Zoidberg
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Freejack
This was a great movie.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:41 pm to Dr. Zoidberg
Children of Men
Or
The Road
Or
The Road
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:44 pm to Peazey
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Maybe the current population isn't qualified. Who knows what skills and abilities the future population will have.
And what do you do between now and the future population? Idiocracy will come before Star Trek. You may be right in the long term but in the short term, which will be multiple decades long, the technology that's about to come out is going to be very disruptive because it's going to hit a bunch of industries all at once. This isn't like the ATM or the self checkout that effected a few industries. There is going to be an army of robots that clean, stock shelves, move things, manufacture things, etc. The effect will not be isolated at all. On top of that computer programs tied to expert knowledge bases will become smart enough to handle not only jobs like customer service but also basic medical, legal, accounting issues. They may not replace the doctors but they can easily replace all the front line employees from the receptionist to the nurse that takes your vitals and calls out your prescription for the doctor. Automated may be the wrong word, what we're really building is a self serve world.
It took about 20 years to go from the ATM to the self check out at the grocery store. I could easily see the technology I'm talking about mainstream within a 15 year period reaching everywhere from Retail to Manufacturing to Healthcare. That's too much disruption in too short a period of time for everything to work out smoothly like it has done in the past.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:59 pm to Dr. Zoidberg
Planet of the Apes.
Um, there is no World Trade Center anymore.
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A.I seems like a reasonable possibility.
Um, there is no World Trade Center anymore.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:02 pm to TigerinATL
The scenario you are describing sounds more like Asimov than Idiocracy to me though I can see some of that mixed in too.
Fair point. I can't say that isn't plausible. 
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:05 pm to Peazey
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At some point people will need to survive, and that will require some sort of skills or talent.
It'll require BRAWNDO. It's got what plants crave
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