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re: Unforgiven - some brief sacrilegious thoughts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:53 am to upgrade
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:53 am to upgrade
quote:Liitle Bill's downfall was he surrounded himself with poor foot soldiers.
some of the deputies are laughing and cutting up, some of them are scared shitless.
Plus his hubris.
Even when he was dieing he was like "this is bullshite, I was building a house".
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:44 am to Jimbeaux
quote:Didn't miss the point. Just don't find a movie with all despicable characters enjoyable or certainly not worth the hype this movie gets.
It seems like you missed the point of the movie
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:45 am to alajones
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Liitle Bill's downfall was he surrounded himself with poor foot soldiers.
like Shredder
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:54 am to TigerMyth36
Nevermind.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:59 am to alajones
Hey, I admitted that I understand it is sacrilege to dislike this movie. 
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:10 pm to TigerMyth36
I responded about you missing the point of that scene and Eastwood's dialogue only to realize you never said anything about it.
I actually like that part of the movie. Not all movies have to have a good guy. Pulp Fiction for example, The Godfather.
I actually like that part of the movie. Not all movies have to have a good guy. Pulp Fiction for example, The Godfather.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:16 pm to alajones
quote:Nothing wrong with Butch.
Pulp Fiction
quote:I think Michael is a good guy. I know many think he is a sociopath, but in the first movie, he is protecting his family by killing the cop. As he said, a dirty cop.
The Godfather.
The tone was just different in the two you mentioned.
I like Westerns. I like Revenge Flicks. I just don't like this one for some reason.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:21 pm to TigerMyth36
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Didn't miss the point. Just don't find a movie with all despicable characters enjoyable or certainly not worth the hype this movie gets.
(This is a quote from my post in the GOAT western thread from February. Hope this helps.)
[I]t's a metaphor for the entire genre.
The wimpy writer dude is like Nick Carraway in Gatsby, we're supposed to see the story through his eyes - he sets out to glamourize a western gunman - he choose poorly, twice. If Clint hadn't threatened to kill him, he would have started following him around, and choose poorly again.
The elements of the film - killing for money, revenge, abuse of law enforcement power, bushwhacking, torture, all of that stuff is glossed over in most westerns, but Unforgiven takes each element in turn and takes all the glamour out of it.
It is a great movie, which happens to be a western. I'm not sure it is Clint's best directing/performance, as I still like the entire package of Josey Wales, but, purely as an art form, Unforgiven is at the pinnacle of the western genre, while at the same time eviscerating it.
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