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re: Thoughts on The Thin Red Line?

Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:15 pm to
Yeah, as a student of WW2 who has lived in Guam and Japan, I'll agree to that. But I think that was portrayed as well. I think the point was to show the whole range of humanity, the cowardice and the courage, the compassionate and the ruthlessness. By yeah, I call The Thin Red Line "a meditation" for a specific reason, because that's how I experienced it.Man/alongside nature, against this horrible backdrop. It was not a movie that focused on a military objective, so much as a reflection on what war means and does to men.

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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:28 pm to
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Better than Saving Private Ryan.
Not much competition there. SPR is meh and TRL is a masterpiece.

I need to watch it again soon.
Posted by DukeSilver
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:31 pm to
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Not much competition there. SPR is meh and TRL is a masterpiece.


Lol
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:47 pm to
"
"Does your confidence lie in this?"***
"Are you loved by all? Do you imagine your sufferings will be less"***
"because you loved goodness and truth?"***
"What're you to me?"
"

Eye For An Eye (James Lavelle mix) - Thin Red Line sample
Around 2:20 movie is quoted...haunting stuff
Posted by lsugradman
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:53 am to
Man what a great remix. UNKLE is good stuff.

Oh and agree with a lot of the sentiment here on TRL. I did not get it when I watched it in my younger years but since then I've developed much more appreciation for Malick's work but have never gone back and watched TRL. Need to do so soon.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:13 am to
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SPR is meh
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:33 am to
Private Ryan completely changed cinema. There has not and probably will not be another war film made that captured the intensity/chaos of Normandy beach and 20th century battles. Spielberg changed the shutter speed on the camera to give a hyper-real documentary style effect. Now almost every war movie has at least one scene with that effect in it. He revolutionized how war movies and battle scenes are directed...Malick, made a painting...
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:32 am to
At least we can all agree that both Saving Private Ryan and The Thin Red Line deservedly lost out on best picture to Shakespeare In Love. The Academy got that one right for sure.
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:28 am to
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Private Ryan completely changed cinema. There has not and probably will not be another war film made that captured the intensity/chaos of Normandy beach and 20th century battles. Spielberg changed the shutter speed on the camera to give a hyper-real documentary style effect. Now almost every war movie has at least one scene with that effect in it. He revolutionized how war movies and battle scenes are directed...Malick, made a painting...


Can I ask you a question?

Can you name two other things that happened in Saving Private Ryan, besides the beach invasion?


SPR has a good first act.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 8:29 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:34 am to
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Can you name two other things that happened in Saving Private Ryan, besides the beach invasion?


the scene when the German tank is coming at the end, they don't see it yet, but they hear it coming, and we get to see their anxiety/fear/anticipation, was a great scene IMO

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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:35 am to
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the scene when the German tank is coming at the end, they don't see it yet, but they hear it coming, and we get to see their anxiety/fear/anticipation, was a great scene IMO




Agree. Do another...
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:36 am to
I'm thinking
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:37 am to
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Can you name two other things that happened in Saving Private Ryan, besides the beach invasion?


The scene where they're going through all the dog tags and joking around when the guys from the front line are walking by staring at them in silent disbelief.

The scene where Miller is trying to get Ryan to leave and go home:

Private Ryan: Hell, these guys deserve to go home as much as I do. They've fought just as hard.
Captain Miller: Is that what I'm supposed to tell your mother when she gets another folded American flag?
Private Ryan: You can tell her that when you found me, I was with the only brothers I had left. And that there was no way I was deserting them. I think she'd understand that.

I think those were both pretty good.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:40 am to
Here's the deal...

The best parts of Saving Private Ryan were the tension-packed scenes. This includes storming the beach at Normandy.

The other scenes that were good were when they got personal with the soldiers. If it wasn't for this aspect of Saving Private Ryan, where the real interesting things we haven't seen before lay, we wouldn't have had Band of Brothers. Tom Hanks and Speilberg saw the power in those moments. Making it personal.


Here's the thing though, Malick had that down pat in Thin Red Line at the same exact time that Saving Private Ryan came out. It was just overshadowed.


Thin Red Line is better than Saving Private Ryan for those parts alone. It has it's own beach storming too.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:40 am to
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Malick, made a painting...


And a GREAT painting it is.

Whereas Saving Private Ryan is a film with a good opening act, but was meh for the majority of the rest of its running time, and in retrospect is a work of propaganda that basically sought to pander to one generation of Americans that was dying away at the time it was released. I can appreciate Triumph of the Will for what it is, but the issue with SPR is that most Americans are not willing to admit that it is basically a less revolutionary, less notable Triumph of the Will.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:41 am to
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the scene when the German tank is coming at the end, they don't see it yet, but they hear it coming, and we get to see their anxiety/fear/anticipation, was a great scene IMO


Especially coupled with the scenes right before. I think in one you have Ryan telling Miller the story about the last time he was with all his brothers. Then it switches to the scene where the other guys are listening to the record and Upham is translating. They're relaxing, listening to a song talking about lost love... then they're back fighting.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:43 am to
Thin Red Line is good (I'm one of the ones that didn't like it the first time I saw it but came to later appreciate it) but I like SPR better.

The best part of TRL is when Woody Harrelson blows his arse off IMO.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:47 am to


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The best part of TRL is when Woody Harrelson blows his arse off IMO.



That was a good scene too. It shows you how dumb mistakes just happen.

And he did the right thing, covering it up to save his neighbors.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:49 am to
oh I love TRL. It is one of my favorites and really the only Malick film that I enjoy.

I also love SPR and its a shame they get compared to each other so much (which is only because they were released around the same time) because to me, they are really different films and are not that comparable
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:55 am to
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I also love SPR and its a shame they get compared to each other so much (which is only because they were released around the same time) because to me, they are really different films and are not that comparable




I agree with this!
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