re: The Next Batman Villians---My Take---

Two face will be in the next one. Eckhart is signed on for a third, plus the movie gave some good hints as to his still being alive

Even if Ledger was still alive, I'd rather not see the Joker again. They did so much with him in this movie, would you really want another 2.5 hour film centered around him? I wouldn't.

I think Nolan could pull off Catwoman, the only thing to get around is the explaining the cheesy suit and her background (unless he has her appear out of nowhere like the Joker). I could also see Two Face come back. Maybe he survives but they keep it a secret and he escapes or something.

I've heard someone suggest the idea of Nolan not having any real comic book villains for the third one and focusing more on the character development too. Either way, all these hints in TDK don't really mean much. Nolan doesn't have anything in mind for the third, just as he didn't after Batman Begins. He's probably just keeping options open and having fun at the same time.

Its still hard for my to picture them bringing back two-face. They basically had a memorial for him at the end of the movie with his face plastered on that poster.

I still think that if they decided to arch out into another set of characters the Riddler is the most likely to show up. The guy is vintage and has played such an important role in the comics it would almost be an injustice for them not to bring him into the series. For serious comic book fans, it would be like if they completely excluded the Joker. The Riddler is the only one who Batman's true identity according to the Comics. Thus giving him an important role

Bane, I think, is just another dark character but the interpretation of his character would need some work. They tried to transition to Venom in Spiderman but you see how that turned out. If they stayed true to the Comics, Bane would be the natural course because of the importance of his character but with Nolan, thats not his objective.

For some reason, if they did bring back two-face, he couldn't be the main character. I think it would take someone like the Riddler that would bring mass-murder back to excite the film.

I'm not looking for a logical story arch, like a real world crime drama. Its cool to see the character struggles and development of Batman, but the heart of the batman comic is basically Conflicted/Relative Good vs. Very Very Bad. It would be a mistake not to make a villian the central theme of the third one. The marketing they used for the Joker was ridiculous. They wouldn't pass that up for the third one considering how successful it was.

cute. You're just speaking for yourself anyway.

If they did bring him back, they couldn't do very much with him that wouldn't be much of the same from TDK. It's moot anyway as you know they're not.

1. there's no way they could top TDK as far as the joker is concerned.

2. No actor will even attempt to reproduce Ledger's performance, nor would Nolan even think about it.

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If Ledger hadnt died I'm sure he would have been brought back.

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Definitely

But they wont recast that role...ever. They left the ending open for the Joker to return...problem is that Ledger didn't.

stop smoking the seeds you butthole. Like I said, the Joker is the best, most interesting and well known villain. SO ITS ONLY LOGICAL....DUH!....that he would return if he hadnt died. fricking Christ.

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just as he didn't after Batman Begins.

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Spoilers....







So that scene at the end with Batman and Gordon where Gordon gives him and evidence bag with a Joker card wasn't meant to tell us that the Joker would be the villain in the next movie?

I really didn't think that Eckhart sold the role that well.

If he were to come back, I hope he doesn't come off as such a whiny bitch. I understand his constant ranting and raving about fairness ties in nicely with the flipping of the coin, but could they make Two Face less of a pansy please?

ETA: I honestly don't think that the character could add a lot to the plot in a third movie. He and the Joker were tied into that theme of chaos that seems to have been wrapped up in the Dark Knight. He'd be as useless in a third movie as Scarecrow was in this one.

At the end of Batman Begins, Gordon gives Batman a speech about escalation.

"We put on kevlar, they use armor piercing rounds
You start dressing up for a bat... and well...
There's this guy has a taste for the theatrical, just like you"

- Shows Batman Joker Card

"I'll look into it"