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Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:25 am to
Most random premise for an episode, ever. "Let's beam down to this unexplored planet. Oh yeah, and I'm bringing along "Chicago Gangs of the 1920's," which I'll conveniently lose somewhere along the way
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:36 am to
Not that random of a premise.

Desilu Studios produced both Star Trek and The Untouchables, so they had the 1920's Chicago sets sitting there unused.

Why we had two episodes located on depression era "Earth".
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 2:20 pm to
Hated this one as a kid. Never was into the early gangster movies so this mixing of the genre didn't work for me as a kid.

Didn't work when I did my full rewatch because the mixing of past earth history theme got used a bit too often for my taste.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:30 pm to
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Didn't work when I did my full rewatch because the mixing of past earth history theme got used a bit too often for my taste.


Budget realities forced some of this - I understand if the gangster or depression eras are not your cup of tea - and going back into Earth's actual, literal past or an intentional recreation only happened a handful of times in TOS - and a few other "parallel" developments (Miri, Omega Glory, Bread and Circuses) - I at least give them credit for being creative with these type of stories - I thought the mix of humor and a sort of tongue and cheek reminder that the Prime Directive is more than just talk worked in this episode.

And, after all, arguably the best TOS episode ever is "The City on the Edge of Forever" - set in Earth's past - and used many of the same sets as The Andy Griffith Show.

Coincidentally, the "kid" (Kirk's "son") in this episode, Sheldon Collins:



had a recurring role on Andy Griffith as Arnold Bailey. He grew up to become a dentist.

I thought the fizzbin scene was one of the best light-hearted scenes in all of Star Trek - at least other than those involving Spock and McCoy taking shots at each other.

And the guest stars playing mobsters all gave good performances, for my money - Caruso's Bela and Tayback's Krako, particularly.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 6:05 pm to
*BY ANY OTHER NAME*



Aliens from another galaxy, who seek to return home using a modified NCC-1701, commandeer the ship and neutralize most of the crew. While the key personnel are required to remain active, most of the crew is reduced (temporarily) to duodecahedron-shaped compactions of approximately 1/6 of a cubic foot.

However, the aliens have chosen human forms to be more compatible with the vessels and are unaccustomed to physical sensation. Is this the weakness that Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty must exploit to thwart their plans and save the ship and crew?

And Barbara Bouchet as Kelinda?



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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:06 am to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:17 pm to
Sunday Bump
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:24 pm to
She was OT hot!

Once again, the Kirk's sexual prowess saves the day.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 7:36 am to
And the other girl alien, Drea (Lezlie Dalton) wasn't bad looking either:



She went on to feature on Dean Martin's variety show and some soap opera work.

Drea was also the one alien who remained professional thoughout - whether it was because she was resistant to the crew's efforts or there just weren't enough Starfleet folks to go around, remains uncertain.

Now - Tomar was played by Robert Fortier:



He had appeared in a film with William Shatner in 1965 - shortly before Star Trek started - called Incubus. In addition to acting in the film, Fortier also designed the winged demon for that film. He was yet another Outer Limits veteran to be cast as a guest star in TOS.

Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:42 am to
The poor yeoman's death is one of the most chilling in TOS, at least for me. The way her crystal was crushed without even knowing which crewman it was really stuck with me. So much so that the lighthearted turn the episode takes in the second half seems a bit jarring.

Kirk has a great reaction though, scooping the powder in his hands.

Scotty and Tomar's drinking scenes are probably some of the funniest in Star Trek. "We did it, you and me. Put him right under the table."

I don't remember if this is the first time we see Scotty's quarters, but it looks great.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:15 am to


...It's green.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:01 pm to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:09 am to
Saturday bump.

We finish up this one today and tomorrow - we've only got 5 left in Season 2.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:21 pm to
Two questions.

How many seasons is this, and are you going into TNG afterward? I don't do much TOS, but would give my life for Captain Picard
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:37 pm to
TOS was only three seasons.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:02 pm to
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How many seasons is this


3 seasons - 79 episodes

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I don't do much TOS


You really should.

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but would give my life for Captain Picard


I like TNG - on balance, it's the 3rd best Star Trek, after TOS and DS9 - I like Picard, particularly, as he is the most authentic in the classic naval tradition. Also, Data and Worf are 2 of my favorite Star Trek characters.

ETA: I can see us getting to Season 3 by late August or September.

As to your other question, I have no plans to do TNG - although I would certainly participate - Mrs. Midnight and I just finished Voyager, finally. We're going to start with Enterprise in about a month or so.

This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:23 pm to
*RETURN TO TOMORROW*



Kirk and company encounter the "essence" of 3 beings from a highly powerful, but long dead race. The leader, Sargon, seems amiable enough. He only asks for leave to use Kirk, Spock and Dr. Ann Mulhall, one of the Enterprise's astrobiologists, as temporary bodies with which to construct artificial bodies for themselves.

Sargon's opposite number, Henoch occupies Spock's body during the task, but is he all he appears to be?

An actress named Cindy Lou:



This is her only known screen credit - almost certainly a Big Gene's Casting Couch (tm) situation.

And, BTW,

This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:19 pm to

I dig this actress. A hint of Meryl Streep.





Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:35 pm to
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I dig this actress. A hint of Meryl Streep.


Diana Muldaur - she appeared in 2 episodes of TOS, this one and a third season episode called "Is There in Truth No Beauty?", albeit as a different character.

Finally, she played a third character in the Star Trek universe, playing Dr. Pulaski in the second season of Star Trek: The Next Generation:

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Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:04 pm to
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