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re: Rank these 5 actors

Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:26 am to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:26 am to
DDL
Nicholson (underrated)
Hopkins (stellar)
Freeman (overrated)
Duvall (I hate him)
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:02 am to
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DDL
Nicholson
Freeman
Duvall
Hopkins


This
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:23 am to
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Robert Duvall

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Daniel Day Lewis

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Anthony Hopkins

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Morgan Freeman

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Jack Nicholson
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:39 am to
Duvall

Hopkins

Nicholson

DDL

Freeman

(DDL and Freeman are wonderful actors and may even be better for either a very specific charater - DDL - or a realistic normal character - Freeman - than the top 3 - but - my top 3 have more range and broader application)

A proplem with your list, though, other than DDL - the other 4 are roughly the same age - Duvall born in 1931, with Nicholson, Hopkins and Freeman all born in 1937. DDL was born in 1957.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:14 am to
DDL
Duvall
Hopkins
Freeman
Nicholson

And with no disrespect intended to the other 4, the gap between DDL and the rest is considerable.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:43 am to
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the gap between DDL and the rest is considerable.




DDL is a great actor, but the resume is, what, 6 movies? So, taking his top 3 (Hawkeye, Bill the Butcher and Plainview) versus Duvall's top 3 (Kilgore, Hagen and, yes, TV, Gus McRae) - Duvall is easily holding his own there, although, to be fair to DDL, he's leading in 2/3 of his great performances, and Duvall is in support for 2/3.

BUT, once we get into Duvall's "next" tier, Network, Great Santini (some argue his greatest role), Tender Mercies, The Apostle, A Civil Action - it's easy to see him closing the gap with a quantity of quality, over DDL's excellence in just a handful of films.

Now, with Hopkins - his reputation (much like DDL for Bill the Butcher) is strongly anchored, in U.S. cinema, anyway, by his Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs - although, he is another one of "those guys" who would surprise you more with a mediocre performance, than by an outstanding one.

Nicholson has such a larger than life persona - it is tough to remember back when he was just a great, great actor. 12 acting nominations is a resume he shouldn't have to defend.

But, we could throw in a few others - Michael Caine, or dead guys like Bogey, Tracy, Brando, Olivier and the gap between DDL and them wouldn't be "considerable" - to suggest such is just engaging in hyperbole.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:48 am to
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But, we could throw in a few others - Michael Caine, or dead guys like Bogey, Tracy, Brando, Olivier and the gap between DDL and them wouldn't be "considerable" - to suggest such is just engaging in hyperbole.


Nobody suggested Caine, Bogart, or Brando.

Just ranking the 5 presented.

I am a huge fan of Duvall, but he simply does not take over a film as strongly as DDL, IMHO.



Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:52 am to
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he simply does not take over a film as strongly as DDL, IMHO


Was that the standard? Arnold takes over all of his films.

And, have you seen The Great Santini? Lonesome Dove (I know, television, but this is one of those exceptions, I would think)? His performance dwarfs the production in both those cases - and Tommy Lee Jones was in Lonesome Dove.

Easily as dominant in Great Santini as DDL is in GONY and about equal to There Will Be Blood.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:48 am to
Hopkins
Duvall
DDL
Freeman
Nicholson
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:49 am to
I've seen Santini, and all the others you mentioned.

I think his strongest performance was in The Apostle (at least that was my favorite).

But when I think of DDL in Gangs, My Left Foot, TWBB, In the Name of the Father, Last Of the Mohicans- I'm far more impressed.
Posted by StarkRebel
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:57 am to
Jack Nicholson
Daniel Day Lewis
Anthony Hopkins
Robert Duval
Morgan Freeman
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:24 pm to
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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Chinatown, The Departed, The Shining, A Few Good Men. Off the top of my head, I'd say those are Jack's best performances; and each of those roles is completely different.


This is a pretty good list - and while they're different, they're still Jack, too. His off-screen persona is alike another character he plays.

Again, I think Jack is a victim of his own success - much the same way Hanks' great performances are sandwiched by the "real" Tom Hanks and the relatively unsophisticated nature of his early work (Bosom Buddies, Bachelor Party, Splash) - people forget he's a helluva good actor - that run from Philadelphia to Castaway rivals almost any 7 year period for any actor - and I mean, Grant, Stewart, Bogey, Tracy, Jack, Duvall, Brando, DDL - anybody.

But, I digress.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:54 pm to
His performances in the departed, the shining, and ofotcn were pretty similar.
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:58 pm to
Seems to me at this level the difference really comes down to taste.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:03 pm to
Jack Nicholson
Daniel Day Lewis
Robert Duvall
Anthony Hopkins
Morgan Freeman


I was gonna put DDL first put Nicholson's work in the 70s trumps all.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted by MetryTyger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:00 pm to
1. Hopkins
2. Duvall
3. Freeman
4. Lewis
5. Nicholson

But 5 current I like better:
1. William H. Macy
2. Tom Hanks
3. Gary Oldman
4. Edward Norton
5. Denzel Washington

Hon Men:
Paul Giamatti, Ed Harris, Charlize Theron, Kevin Spacey, Jim Carrey, Giovanni Ribisi, M.Streep,
Glenn Close

old School:
Stewart, Cooper, Tracy, Bogie, Gable, Stanwyck,
Burstyn, Leachman, Brando, Hepburn
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:20 pm to
Nicholson
Freeman
Duvall
Hopkins
DDL
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Lewis is getting a lot of love on the MB.


He's the best actor alive and that I've ever seen
Posted by BamaChemE
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:38 pm to
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Duvall (I hate him)



This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 3:47 pm
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