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Our Father On Netflix
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:12 am
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:12 am
Crazy how there isnt a federal law.
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In 2014, at 35, the Indiana native’s wish came true when she took a 23andMe DNA test and discovered that she had at least seven half brothers and sisters living within a 25-mile radius of her.
But Ballard’s lifelong dream of having a big family quickly warped as her half-sibling matches ballooned. Over the next eight years, she found a staggering 94 (and counting) fair-haired brothers and sisters — and one man at the root of their sordid family tree. They all shared a father, fertility doctor Donald Cline.
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:23 am to pioneerbasketball
And it somehow managed to take an even darker twist towards the end
Posted on 5/13/22 at 9:37 am to pioneerbasketball
I watched Baby God, which is about the same thing, different doctor.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 3:06 pm to Vrai
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And it somehow managed to take an even darker twist towards the end
that's pretty fricked up Posted on 5/13/22 at 6:51 pm to pioneerbasketball
We had to do IVF and started the doc about 20 minutes ago.
What a sack of shite.
Makes me feel good about us using a female doctor.
What a sack of shite.
Makes me feel good about us using a female doctor.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 1:49 am to pioneerbasketball
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he found a staggering 94 (and counting) fair-haired brothers and sisters — and one man at the root of their sordid family tree.
It's scary for that community (Marion County, IA). How many of those 94+ had their own children and those kids are unkowingly dating their 1st cousins that haven't been discovered yet?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:59 am to pioneerbasketball
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Crazy how there isnt a federal law.
I'm guessing they would have charged him with fraud or sexual assault but the statute of limitations had probably long expired by the time they discovered the truth (the kids were in their 30s and 40s by then). Pretty much every crime except murder has a statute of limitations.
It's disingenuous for the documentary not to mention this important fact and paint the prosecutor as some sort of amoral misogynist who might have been part of this guy's circle of influence. I would be pissed if I was that guy. At one point the documentary said something to the effect of "this doctor went to church and a lot of people who work in government also go to church so..."
On the flip side of the coin there have also been cases where a couple begins IVF and they break up or the man opts out and the woman proceeds and uses his frozen sperm anyway. Is that rape? It's effectively the same thing but I'm guessing most people would see it differently.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:35 am to AUFANATL
There is no law against what he did, that was clearly pointed out. Has nothing do to with any statute of limitations
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:41 am to AUFANATL
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On the flip side of the coin there have also been cases where a couple begins IVF and they break up or the man opts out and the woman proceeds and uses his frozen sperm anyway. Is that rape? It's effectively the same thing but I'm guessing most people would see it differently.
How is that effectively the same thing
Maybe if that women systematically did it with hundreds of men and then didn’t tell any of the children that they have hundreds of brothers and sisters you might be able to get away with calling it “effectively” the same thing
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:50 pm to DCtiger1
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There is no law against what he did, that was clearly pointed out. Has nothing do to with any statute of limitations
Yeah, there is no direct law that specifically addresses this, but there are laws that would definitely apply to it, like I mentioned - fraud and sexual assault. They could have definitely rung him up on some serious charges if they discovered this earlier.
The point I made was that the documentary presented the situation as the state attorney didn't want to try for anything substantial and were kind of taking the doctor's side. But the legal truth is that after a certain amount of time passes there really isn't any crime you can charge someone with besides murder and prison escape. They had to snare him on a perjury charge for lying on an investigative form just to create a contemporaneous charge they could drag him into court on.
Even if there was a specific law on the books to deal with this exact scenario, that law would have had to been enacted before the artificial inseminations took place in the early 80s. The Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. And frankly people probably couldn't imagine something like this happening 40 years ago.
I do think that every state should pass criminal laws to prohibit this. There have been too many examples of this abuse (see also, Cecil Jacobson in Northern Virginia who made national news for the same thing and was even lampooned in a SNL sketch with John Goodman where the judge punishes him by actually forcing him to actually parent his fraudulent brood).
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:31 pm to pioneerbasketball
Watched it. That is some crazy fricked up stuff.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:13 am to pioneerbasketball
Watched this last night. Incredibly fricked up.
Got to wonder what the guy's motivation/intent was.
Got to wonder what the guy's motivation/intent was.
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