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re: Official The Walking Dead Season Finale S4E16 "A" :Thread **NO SPOILERS/COMICS

Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:54 pm to
TIL while reading TWD wiki
Darryl was a model and worked at an Harley dealership.
Michonne is from Zimbabwe.
The governor at one time was one of UKs leading actors.
Carl's wiki picture makes me want to punch him in the throat
On mobile, someone post it.
Posted by adono
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:18 pm to
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If it's not a few months later it's going to be weird having Carl looking older just a few hours later.


That got me to thinking: is it possible the showrunner has already taped S5E1 already? The ending was totally different from past seasons. You're right; how are they going to handle Carl's age difference unless they've already shot his scenes getting out of the box car already?

Another point is all of the hype coming from the actors about the finale and how it was "over the top" and brutal...etc. I really didn't see anything that was much different from a regular show. The last thing that caught my attention is that not one of the group dies in the finale and yet several producers were saying there would be some causalities in the group.

I'm just throwing this out there; I have no idea if that's even possible.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Confirming they are cannibals doesn't spoil it any more than this article from Yahoo.


Did you read the article you posted? ...

quote:

Gimple: I don't believe we've totally, completely, definitively described or illustrated those people as cannibals. They're up to no good, but I saw no people being eaten. There are absolutely piles of human bones there. That doesn't necessarily mean that they ate those people. People have died there, and they are up to awful things there; whether or not it's cannibalism, we'll find out pretty quickly. That episode does not definitively tell you whether or not they're cannibals.


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Kirkman: That possibility is there. The people of Terminus have a great many secrets that will be revealed. They've proven themselves to be fairly dangerous. Whether or not they are actually cannibals remains to be seen.


Definitive proof that the show did not indicate whether or not Terminus is full of cannibals. IN FACT, that article (full of comic ties) completely relies on the comics for its assumption.

Libertyabides71, why don't you stick to the comics thread, goober.
Posted by volnavy
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:21 pm to
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I don't see how they can on their own. Terminus has snipers, tons of men and tons of bullets. They have no friends which is why I think the Zombie Horde may come into play


Or maybe they join them and help Rick's group escape after terminus guys trust them
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Confirming they are cannibals doesn't spoil it any more than this article from Yahoo.

Did you read the article you posted? ...

Gimple: I don't believe we've totally, completely, definitively described or illustrated those people as cannibals. They're up to no good, but I saw no people being eaten. There are absolutely piles of human bones there. That doesn't necessarily mean that they ate those people. People have died there, and they are up to awful things there; whether or not it's cannibalism, we'll find out pretty quickly. That episode does not definitively tell you whether or not they're cannibals.

Kirkman: That possibility is there. The people of Terminus have a great many secrets that will be revealed. They've proven themselves to be fairly dangerous. Whether or not they are actually cannibals remains to be seen.


thank you
libertyabides just cannot help himself.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

That got me to thinking: is it possible the showrunner has already taped S5E1 already? The ending was totally different from past seasons. You're right; how are they going to handle Carl's age difference unless they've already shot his scenes getting out of the box car already?

Another point is all of the hype coming from the actors about the finale and how it was "over the top" and brutal...etc. I really didn't see anything that was much different from a regular show. The last thing that caught my attention is that not one of the group dies in the finale and yet several producers were saying there would be some causalities in the group.

I'm just throwing this out there; I have no idea if that's even possible.


I think this is certainly a plausible theory. I personally don't think Terminus lasts much longer than 1-2 episodes next season (I have nothing to back this argument I just don't think they would do another "Governor" storyline) so they could certainly have already filmed most of what they were planning to do with that story arch and just kept everyone in the dark about when it was going to be released.
Posted by Methuselah
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:32 pm to
Didn't think I'd ever get to the end of the thread so that I could post. Some thoughts:
quote:

Rick is riding high right now. He's got Daryl back, Michonne, Glenn, Maggie, Sasha, and Bob...Plus Carl is capable and Abraham and Rosita (not much on Eugene). He is confident.

My belief is that the people of Terminus are not ready for what Rick and his people are capable and willing to do to survive. That is Rick's upper hand.

This. This is kind of an all star team of ZA survivors. Rick, Darryl and Michonne are on another level. Glenn is close to that and Carl is getting there himself. Just judging from appearances, his background and the little we've seen of him so far, I'd say Abraham could fit right in with the big 3. If Tyrese and Carol show up, that's two more heavy hitters - Ty with his hammer and Carol who is kind of an ice cold killer at this point. Maggie, Sasha, Bob and probably Rosita are all competent at least.

It's kind of like survival of the fittest has really winnowed the group down to an elite force. And everyone who has messed with Rick's group from the beginning of the show has ended up dead (except maybe for those people who ended up taking care of old folks from S1).

Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:40 pm to
Just wanted to add, since I read thru the whole thread and didnt see it corrected..

it was definitely Rick that shot his hostage alex in the head
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:42 pm to
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Definitive proof that the show did not indicate whether or not Terminus is full of cannibals. IN FACT, that article (full of comic ties) completely relies on the comics for its assumption.


What do those hacks Gimple and Kirkman know? You just don't like Liberty because of the script A by his name.











For those with damaged sarcasm meters, that was indeed sarcasm.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

it was definitely Rick that shot his hostage alex in the head


Thanks. I really couldn't tell.
Posted by adono
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

It's kind of like survival of the fittest has really winnowed the group down to an elite force.


That's true but they have to get out of the train car in order to do their thing. My guess is they somehow pull up a part of the floor (have to assume the door gets locked at some point). The Zombies invade and Michonne uses the distraction(she seems to be the most competent on her own)and gets the guns Rick stashed. When Carol shows up with Little arse Kicker, Rick become a mass murdered and goes back to the true leader.

Disclaimer: I have never ever read a single word of the comics. Any relationship to actual events which may be broadcasted in future shows is a mere coincidence.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:43 pm to
Ummmmm Hello. I miss you.

OT- I don't think rick shot the hostage. He looked hella surprised his meat shield got smoked. The guy , Gavin gave the hand down signal just before the shot rang out. Rick wouldn't have merc'd his only bargaining chip IMHO
Posted by Dorothy
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:46 pm to
I'll have to rewatch it, but both times I watched last night, I thought Mary (? the woman standing in front of him when he turned, after Gareth gave the hand signal) shot Alex, not Rick or the Sniper.

And while I think Bad arse Take Charge Rick is back, I wonder if he will soften up a bit again when he sees that Judith is alive--remember, he & Carl assumed Judith was dead in the bloody car seat at the prison.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45903 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:51 pm to
Sup.

just rewatched the scene..cant tell.

I thought it was confirmed on talking dead with a slowmo of the blood splatter and maybe some comments.

Mighta been that dude who flanked that they showed for 2 seconds immediately after with the ar.

yeah..mustve been him..not rick.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

That's true but they have to get out of the train car in order to do their thing. My guess is they somehow pull up a part of the floor (have to assume the door gets locked at some point)

Yeah. That box car didn't look like the most secure place to keep prisoners who've proved they were dangerous. If those Terminus morons knew what they were doing they should have put them in one of those shipping containers. Seems like it would have been near impossible to get out of one of those Then again, maybe all of those were in use judging by the screams coming from the ones we saw.

Getting back to the discussion of "A" above - the top guy, when he was giving instructions said either to "heard them towards sector A" or "heard them away from sector A". (Or something along one of those lines). Can anyone remember which it was?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:04 pm to
Libertyabides hasn't posted in this thread since the shows producer/creator duo said that cannibalism has NOT been confirmed. But I guess LA knows more than them
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:05 pm to
Towards sector A
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:14 pm to
I just finished the episode.

Have not read the thread so forgive me if I am talking about things already discussed.

I suspected that Terminus was a bad place already but as soon as they did the scene with Rick showing how to snare a rabbit it was obvious. The foreshadowing was heavy.

The scene with the butthole group was fantastic.

Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21221 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:15 pm to
I was wrong looks like this is what happened

quote:

As Rick holds Alex hostage, Mary attempts to shoot Rick as Gareth ordered her to. Rick moves out of the way and Alex takes the bullet instead.
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