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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:10 pm to
I feel like house meeting could be good for Janelle and Kaysar
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:21 pm to
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Cody was 100% putting both of them up if they didn’t get safety suite.


He never said he was 100% putting them both up. He said the opposite. Before safety he was considering putting one of them up for sure, but he was never dead set on putting them both up week 1.

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Nicole F talks about Janelle way more than Janelle talks about her.


Nicole F was friendly with Janelle at the beginning. Janelle started making fun of her crying and saying she was with Cody to other people. That got back to Nicole F, and then we got to this point.

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Don’t think there was any reasoning with Kevin there but maybe


No reasoning with Kevin, who had nobody, and was best friends with Nicole A, but reasoning with Ian?

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Memphis is not going to talk to Nicole A


It's not about Memphis talking, or not talking, to Nicole A. It was about Janelle/Kaysar not even trying to include her in those conversations, when she was supposed to be aligned with them.



I really like Janelle and Kaysar. I don't want them to go, but they are playing a very poor game and one of them will deserve to go next week, if that's what happens. I hope it's Janelle, because I want to see Kaysar try to turn it around. I hope one wins HOH though.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:23 pm to
Now Dani is talking to her now, so she might talk her out of it. But she was definitely read to do it after her talk with Tyler. I will be so pissed if Dani talks her out of it.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:24 pm to
Watching the Braves. Keep me updated.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:25 pm to
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Janelle is the all-star of the all-stars with this cast. She could only be overshadowed by a Dan, Derrick or Will. You think any of those players, had they come in the house, would be playing similar to how Janelle is?


No but I put those players overall games much higher than her, especially the social aspect and that is what she has needed most right now. I don't think she has a bad mind for the game but I don't think she is the type of player you want approaching a swing vote and trying to convince them. That has never been her strength imo.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Now Dani is talking to her now, so she might talk her out of it. But she was definitely read to do it after her talk with Tyler. I will be so pissed if Dani talks her out of it.


I didn't hear Tyler talk her into it. When I was watching he was giving positives and negatives of doing it. Then I went get frozen yogurt. When I came back they were at the end of the conversation and he was telling her to sleep on it and see what she felt was best.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:28 pm to
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Janelle started making fun of her crying and saying she was with Cody to other people.


To be fair, I remember more than one person making fun of her for that. Enzo I believe was the first in a group of at least 3 people.

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It was about Janelle/Kaysar not even trying to include her in those conversations, when she was supposed to be aligned with them.


I guess my thought is what does it matter because even if they tried, would Nicole A believe they tried?
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:29 pm to
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No but I put those players overall games much higher than her


So do I. I was just making the point that, with this cast, she is held in that high regard with a lot of them. She didn't use that to her advantage enough, in my opinion.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:30 pm to
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I guess my thought is what does it matter because even if they tried, would Nicole A believe they tried?


By not including her, I'm saying wouldn't let her go in the room when they talked to Memphis. She asked them if she should go in with them at one point and they didn't let. Then she got put on the block. So what does that look like to her?
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:39 pm to
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He never said he was 100% putting them both up. He said the opposite. Before safety he was considering putting one of them up for sure, but he was never dead set on putting them both up week 1.

He was going to. It’s why Nicole F went running up there saying HOWD THEY KNOW TO USE IT???

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Nicole F was friendly with Janelle at the beginning. Janelle started making fun of her crying and saying she was with Cody to other people. That got back to Nicole F, and then we got to this point.

Nope. You know why they hate each other right? It started before they were even in the house.

Nicole F says Janelle and Evel Dick started the rumors about her crying to get on the season.

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No reasoning with Kevin, who had nobody, and was best friends with Nicole A, but reasoning with Ian?

One an emotional player who’s terrible at the game. The other who will do anything he needs to to win. So yeah.

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It's not about Memphis talking, or not talking, to Nicole A. It was about Janelle/Kaysar not even trying to include her in those conversations, when she was supposed to be aligned with them.

They weren’t even aligned. They were trying to convince her to align with them.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:41 pm to
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So do I. I was just making the point that, with this cast, she is held in that high regard with a lot of them. She didn't use that to her advantage enough, in my opinion.



I mean I think people respect her but I never got the vibe from day 1 that anyone was really wanting to work with her. Did anyone ever approach her ever with wanting to work with her at the start? I would agree 100% if this wasn't an all star season.

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By not including her, I'm saying wouldn't let her go in the room when they talked to Memphis. She asked them if she should go in with them at one point and they didn't let. Then she got put on the block. So what does that look like to her?


I get what your saying but I also think Nicole A is being unreasonable. She has acted like they are lying about wanting to keep her because Memphis (the person she believes they are working with) put her on the block while ignoring that he put up David as well. Maybe I have been missing something but has Nicole A put any of this on Memphis? Seems like everything is on Kaysar/Janelle for what has happened this week.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:42 pm to
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I didn't hear Tyler talk her into it. When I was watching he was giving positives and negatives of doing it. Then I went get frozen yogurt. When I came back they were at the end of the conversation and he was telling her to sleep on it and see what she felt was best.

Go back and watch the whole conversation. He was real subtle about it at first, but as the conversation progressed you could tell he was pushing her more and more into doing it. Here is the ending of the conversation:
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Tyler- I think you know you need to do it (the house meeting). Nicole A- I know that I need to do it. At least I will get my airtime before I leave #BB22
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Tyler to Nicole A- This is my last piece of advice. Do what you have got to do and think about your family. Will your family be more proud of you for sticking to your truth and integrity or if you do whatever it takes, throw morals aside, and go win? #BB22


But then he asked her not to do it right after they had an hour long talk (because he didn't want everyone to know he encouraged it). After he left she started hyping herself up about it.

And then Dani came in and basically told her it would end badly for her, that Janelle would have her crying (which she would). Now Nicole A is laying down in silence by herself in deep thought about it.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:49 pm to
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I mean I think people respect her but I never got the vibe from day 1 that anyone was really wanting to work with her. Did anyone ever approach her ever with wanting to work with her at the start? I would agree 100% if this wasn't an all star season.



Nicole A and Bay are two that seem the most star struck by her. With them could have easily came Day and Kevin. Nicole F would have maybe never fully worked with them, but she could have had a better relationship with her for sure. Kaysar could have pulled Ian much earlier, especially with the Nic F relationship still being decent. That's good numbers. Had they had them, Kevin may also be gone right now, with Keesha still in the house. Just playing the what-if game. It's easy to sit here and say that.

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Maybe I have been missing something but has Nicole A put any of this on Memphis? Seems like everything is on Kaysar/Janelle for what has happened this week.


No. She really hasn't. She is wrongly blaming Janelle for Memphis putting her up. I'm just viewing it from Nicole's side, and saying I understand why she thinks what she does. Memphis is sitting pretty again, when it looked like he was toast earlier this week.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:52 pm to
Yeah, I missed a piece of that conversation.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:55 pm to
Have Kaysar/Janelle lost Bay/Day? I know they formed an alliance with Xmas and then Day/Bay formed an alliance with Cody/Enzo/Dani but the vibe I was getting was Bay and Day wouldn't put up Kaysar/Janelle if they won HoH

I believe there was some serious rumors about Bay and Janelle pregaming like Cody and Memphis
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Have Kaysar/Janelle lost Bay/Day?


They don't have Day at all. Janelle and Bay seem to have a much closer relationship, but Day is just tagging along. Both Bay and Day spill info to the other side about Janelle and Kaysar.

Now, would Bay/Day put them up? That would be interesting. They are working both sides, so they would get pressured into putting them up. Janelle and Kaysar would probably also feel safe if either won. Both of them should try their hardest to lose the next HOH, because if they did win and didn't put up Janelle/Kaysar, they would become targets.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:05 pm to
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Now, would Bay/Day put them up?


That was what I was getting at, I think it would be Memphis for sure but the other spot is a little more up in the air.

Bay winning might actually be the best if you are a fan of mixing up the house and want Janelle/Kaysar to get further. Bay going after Memphis would actually help J/K without them even knowing.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:15 pm to
Apparently Nicole A putting on makeup


House meeting???


Edit: nevermind. She on the hammock don’t know where they got that
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:26 pm to
Nicole A just told Kevin that Tyler was pushing her to have the meeting. You know Kevin will run that right to Day, and we all know Day can't keep her mouth shut. This could backfire on Tyler.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:40 am to
8/18 recap -

Time for week 2 of the house ratings. I figured today is a good day to do it because yesterday wasn't much. Nicole A went around giving the same pitch to everybody. She says she feels betrayed by Janelle and Kaysar and is coming after them if she stays. It doesn't seem to be working, as David seems to be staying. Today is the day we could see the house explode though. It's working its way towards that.

Dani - 7/10 (last week - 9) - Dani hasn't really done much different this week, but it seems her own alliance is losing trust in her for some reason. Maybe they are just starting to plan ahead to take her out as soon as the numbers allow it.

Memphis - 7/10 (last week 9) - Memphis saw his game take an early hit in the week, but he seems to have rebounded nicely.

Enzo - 9/10. (LW - 8) - Enzo is still super strong on the social game. He isn't on many radars right now. He seems to be playing a great game.

Bay - 6/10. (LW -8) Bay is being viewed as being tied to Janelle. If the trend of the first two weeks keeps happening, Bay could be a target next week. She's kind of on the outter ring of multiple alliances.

Kevin - 6/10. (LW -7) - Kevin is probably going to lose his strongest ally this week. He doesn't have a whole lot else. If someone goes after floaters, he's a prime target.

Tyler - 7/10. (LW - 7) - Tyler is in the same spot as last week. He has multiple people he's good with. He's laying as low as possible, but people are still on to him and Cody.

Da - 7/10. (LW - 7) Day is in a similar spot to last week. Her ties to Bay, and Bay's tie to Janelle may put her on the block eventually though.

Nicole A - 4/10. (LW - 6) her allegiance to Jannelle has not paid off. Now she is reading the game all wrong, and will probably be sent packing.

David - 3/10. (LW - 5) - David has shown this week that he isn't an all-star. He's saying a lot of wrong things to a lot of the wrong people.

Janelle - 3/10. (LW - 5) Janelle is making some big mistakes in the house. If she doesn't win next week she may find herself in the block.

Kaysar - 4/10. (LW - 5) Kaysar seems to be doing a better job of building relationships. Outside of Cody, most want Janelle gone before him. There is still hope for his game, possibly, if he survives past Janelle.

Cody - 6/10. (LW - 6) Cody is protected from a lot of ways. He is the prime target for Janelle and Kaysar though.

Ian - 6/10. (LW - 4) no surprise that Ian is starting to pop up and calculate moves. He has a decent read on the house and is in decent shape on all sides. If people forget about him and little longer, he can emerge late again.

Christmas - 8/10. (LW - 4) Christmas makes the biggest jump this week. She now has Kaysar and Janelle thinking she's with them. She is well covered, and is actually playing a smart game right now.

Nicole F - 5/10. (LW - 3) Nicole is using the Janelle situation to her advantage. If she can get Janelle, before Janelle gets her, she will be in a great spot.
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