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re: ***Official Big Brother 16 Season Long SPOILERS Thread***
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:41 am to Smoke7024
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:41 am to Smoke7024
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Exactly, if there's any pushback at all, then he gives up on the idea.
That's not a weakness on Derricks part.
He doesn't want to be aggressive. Derrick has multiple plans worked out in his head. If he gets pushback on one and decides its not worth it to push too hard, he can bail and work on plan B, C, etc..
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:45 am to Murray
We can argue this all day long and never get anywhere. I say he proves himself with what happens in the next few weeks when the protection of this huge alliance is gone. I think he's a good player for sure, but it's hard for me to give him a lot of credit with how this season has played out to this point.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:48 am to Smoke7024
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We can argue this all day long and never get anywhere. I say he proves himself with what happens in the next few weeks when the protection of this huge alliance is gone. I think he's a good player for sure, but it's hard for me to give him a lot of credit with how this season has played out to this point.
Well said. It started with the Bomb Squad and carried over with the Detonators. You're right. It's easy to dodge obstacles and overcome when you're behind a six person alliance who has been in power all season. Good move on his part, but what it does without that protection will determine how good of a player he really is.
BTW, I'm not riled up. I just hate the way this season has played out. I should be more upset with production instead of blaming Derrick.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:52 am to Smoke7024
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We can argue this all day long and never get anywhere. I say he proves himself with what happens in the next few weeks when the protection of this huge alliance is gone. I think he's a good player for sure, but it's hard for me to give him a lot of credit with how this season has played out to this point.
I understand that its hard to see and understand the intricacies in Derricks game. It is very subtle and very much a long game, low risk, non-splashy way of doing things which doesn't translate to fun for us but, personally, I've enjoyed watching him work.
Zach was the most fun to watch this season but Derrick deserves more credit than he'll probably ever receive(unless he wins it all) for how well he's worked this house.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:55 am to AHM21
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I'm not going to give him credit for being a great player in a weak house
But it's not his fault for who the other castmates are. We can only judge him on the game he's actually playing, IMO.
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I don't see anything in his game that is new or should be considered new to this game
It's season 16, there's not really any "new" way to play it.
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staying under the radar by not winning and having others fear you is exactly what got Amanda as far as it did.
It's not the same. Amanda was a fearmonger that bullied everyone and had a bf as a partner and a tattletale rat as another. Derrick doesnt' have any "enemies" like Amanda did, and his partners in the house all discuss game with him like adults. Amanda played like a whiny spoiled brat that was just the biggest bully on the playground. Derrick is beating these people at chess while Amanda was just flipping over the whole table.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:59 am to WG_Dawg
It is the same. Amanda was over the top with it and Derrick is sharper. People don't confront Derrick because they know he controls who goes home.
I do applaud him for crying last night on the show. He's at a crossroads and his decision is tough. It's clear he doesn't want to turn on Donny, but Donny did lie directly to him about targeting him. Derrick plays for the next move, but he has to know the side he picks is the side that will advance.
I do applaud him for crying last night on the show. He's at a crossroads and his decision is tough. It's clear he doesn't want to turn on Donny, but Donny did lie directly to him about targeting him. Derrick plays for the next move, but he has to know the side he picks is the side that will advance.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:00 am to AHM21
Amanda just bullied people. And knew she had production in her back pocket. Completely different than Derrick
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:02 am to AHM21
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People don't confront Derrick because they know he controls who goes home.
What show have you been watching? I don't want to come off as condescending to you man but come on.Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:03 am to AHM21
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It is the same. Amanda was over the top with it and Derrick is sharper
Uhhhh...exactly. Soooo it's not the same. Just because they're both going far doesn't mean they're playing the same game. Hell it took WEEKS for people to even realize derrick was pulling all these strings. People realized out of the gate Amanda was just a big brat bully but they were too scared to do anything.
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People don't confront Derrick because they know he controls who goes home
So he has that power without being mean, without causing fear or hurling insults, without winning hardly anything, and while still being pretty likable? Hmm..sounds like he's playing a pretty good game to me.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:04 am to Murray
I've watched the entire season.
I noticed this when Frankie went to Derrick early on about pitching an idea. I don't remember which one, but he woke him up and brought him in. Everything that happens in the house runs through Derrick. Donny started working last week to get Derrick as a target. Cody and Christine ran back to Derrick as soon as the conversation ended. His alliance trusts him, but anyone that confronts him is going to go up because they're a threat.
I noticed this when Frankie went to Derrick early on about pitching an idea. I don't remember which one, but he woke him up and brought him in. Everything that happens in the house runs through Derrick. Donny started working last week to get Derrick as a target. Cody and Christine ran back to Derrick as soon as the conversation ended. His alliance trusts him, but anyone that confronts him is going to go up because they're a threat.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:05 am to WG_Dawg
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Hmm..sounds like he's playing a pretty good game to me.
Every season isn't the same. Derrick is feasting on a dumb cast and a lucky draw. Other greats of this game would be doing the same thing with what he has been given.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:05 am to WG_Dawg
Devon tried to play Amanda's game. Derrick is the polar opposite of her. Not sure how the two could be confused 
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:06 am to AHM21
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I noticed this when Frankie went to Derrick early on about pitching an idea. I don't remember which one, but he woke him up and brought him in. Everything that happens in the house runs through Derrick. Donny started working last week to get Derrick as a target. Cody and Christine ran back to Derrick as soon as the conversation ended. His alliance trusts him, but anyone that confronts him is going to go up because they're a threat.
And you interpret this as he's just like Amanda..
Clearly we've reached an impasse AHM21.
I say we agree that you disagree and move forward in wanting to see Zach attack act a fool in the finale.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:08 am to Mr. Wayne
Their personalities are different, yes. But the strategy of controlling the game without winning anything and controlling the house through fear of confronting the biggest target is what Amanda did and what Derrick is doing. Obviously on a much smaller level as pointed out by others.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:10 am to Murray
Like I said, I'm not mad. This is fun for me. I started watching BB regularly four years ago because my girlfriend loves it. It does a great job of passing the time before football. Once football starts, I pay less attention and care less. Once this season is over, I'll look back and realize Derrick was a good player. But right now I'm too frustrated by this house to acknowledge it.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:13 am to AHM21
I honestly don't think Derrick would still be in the game without the 2 HOH twist. His alliance would have turned on themselves a long time ago and his game would have been exposed.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:19 am to The Spleen
While I do think he's done an excellent job at controlling the house, all he's about to have to show for it is being in the last few with strong competitors. That's why I think that he hasn't proven himself yet. A stronger player doesn't waste the opportunity that was just given this week to get out a real threat.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:03 am to The Spleen
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I honestly don't think Derrick would still be in the game without the 2 HOH twist. His alliance would have turned on themselves a long time ago and his game would have been exposed.
Where you slip up is in assuming his game would be the same in this scenario. He is an undercover cop. His career is adapting to specific situations, fitting in, and going undetected. I thought he was going to win as soon as I heard his profession.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:42 am to Mr. Wayne
I agree with this ^
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:47 pm to wish i was tebow
A little bit ago Donny was sitting alone, in his eviction chair, looked around, and started crying...
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