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re: Official BB11 Season Long Thread with *SPOILERS*

Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:44 am to
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:44 am to
quote:

If he is smart (which I'm still not sure he is yet), he'll back door Russell instead of outright nominating him.


Bingo, bango. Russell could do a lot of damage with a week, and Michelle as his ally.

I know Jeff gave Jordan the HOH last week to be nice but that ended up being a damn good move as the challenge last night was pretty difficult and only a win by Jordan or him could ensure their safety.

Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:53 am to
But in all actuality, Kevin should have won the HOH. He was in the lead and Jeff was struggling with Russell shaking the platform with his running back and forth. Kevin gave Russell some kind of 1 minute "pause" penalty and that allowed Jeff to concentrate more and be more sturdy with the release of his cans and Jeff caught and beat Kevin by ONE CAN.

Jeff got lucky...
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 4:24 am to
Taken from an interview between Julie and Allison(Producer) talking about Jeff & Jordan...

Julie: "Do you think it's a real romance?"


Allison: "They're realistic. They're in different stages of life and they live in different states. So it's not deep. I mean, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed, and they're a little naive. But they're very real."

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAAHHAHHA

You can see the full interview here.
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 5:10 am to
Russ and Michelle were in the backyard talking and Russ was all paranoid about Jeff putting him on the block.

Michelle goes up to HoH room to talk to Jeff and asks him straight up if they're putting Russ on the block.

Jeff says No. We're sticking to the plan.

Mich then jokingly asks of they're putting her on the block.

Jeff jokingly brushes her off and says no.

Jeff says the're sticking to the plan and putting "those two" up(meaning Nat and Kev).

As Michelle is leaving Jeff tells her to tell Russ not to worry. The Final 4 plan is still in effect. He tells her to tell Russ to come up to the HoH tomorrow and they'll talk more about it.

Michelle goes back out to the backyard and tells Russ and he was in disbelief at first but she told him how it all went down and what all Jeff said now he's pretty relieved.

Posted by LSU1018
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 7:53 am to
So does Jeff actually mean this?
Posted by tigerchick555
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 7:58 am to
quote:

So does Jeff actually mean this?


I would hope so...and if he is smart, he would actually take Russ to the final 2 with him, bc he could beat Russ...not so sure if he would beat Jordan/Nat/Kevin with that Jury!
I think if he took Jordan, they aren't gonna vote for who played the game the best, since he done pissed off some people with the coup detat(sp?).

PLus if he gets rid of one of his own, then that is better for Kevin and Nat.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:17 am to
I was thinking about this last night, but do you think it would be interesting if they took out the rule that the outgoing HOH can't compete for HOH. I know that rule is thrown out at some point in the game, for the final HOH. I just think that for the entire game it could be taken out. I guess it would hurt strategy though.
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 9:54 am to
quote:

So does Jeff actually mean this?


He seemed to, but later on he was talking to Jordan and said again that he wants to keep ro the plan for the final 4 alliance, but should Kev or Nat win veto and remove themselves THEN they'd think about backdooring Russ.
Posted by Big Pun
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 10:04 am to
he stupid if he does, hell last night russell even said it's just playing the game for what it is now. i know jeff didn't hear that.

Posted by JasonLSU
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 10:06 am to
quote:

He seemed to, but later on he was talking to Jordan and said again that he wants to keep ro the plan for the final 4 alliance, but should Kev or Nat win veto and remove themselves THEN they'd think about backdooring Russ.


That's the way I read it too--you never know what's gonna happen between now and next Thursday though. Assuming they stick to the plan and neither Kevin or Nat win PoV, who goes home on Thursday?

My guess is Kevin...simply because he's has been the stronger of the two in the different competitions...but Nat is so deceiving.
Posted by lsu7171
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:06 pm to
nat needs to go . i m tired of her act.
Posted by JasonLSU
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

nat needs to go . i m tired of her act.


And what's the point of her trying to convince the houseguests that she is 18 when she is really 24?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Jordan & Jeff talking about order to get rid of everybodyJor explains to Jeff what Michele said outside and how she is sticking up for Russell. Jordan says Kevin needs to go this week since he's good at competitions. Then Russ next week for a F4 of JJMN. At that point, it makes sense to get rid of Mi since she's so smart and they can beat Nat in a F3. Jeff says she understands where her head is at and it sounds good to him. Jordan worried Mi will turn on them but Jeff doesn't think so.


retards
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

And what's the point of her trying to convince the houseguests that she is 18 when she is really 24?


In the beginning she said that she didn't want them to think she's "older and wiser" so if they think she's young and dumb then they may not think she's as strong a player and she thought she'll be able to fly under the radar throughout the game.
Posted by noladan
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:02 pm to
As expected Jeff nominated Natalie and Kevin.

Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 10:40 pm to
Check this out: (from 4:12 our time this afternoon)

quote:

Jeff tells Nat/Kev outside about what he's thinking about who to put up
08/21/09 02:12 PM

Jeff tells them he doesn't trust Russ but he's made a Final 4 deal with the other side. He tells them Russ admitted to having a Final 2 deal with Mi. Nat/Kev say they have his back and he should put up Russ/Mi and if one wins veto then they can send the other home. Nat is pushing the LML again and says she knows what she heard Russ say.


Jeff says he understands but it's hard to trust them. They haven't been with him since the beginning. This is their last play and they could still hold grudges for getting Jess/Chi/Ly out. He says he would rather put them up and have them try to win veto on their own and then see what happens. Nat thanks him for his honesty. Mi comes to the BY and convo stops. Nat/Kev start to play pool.


So now it REALLY does seem Jeff is aiming to get Russ out THIS WEEK even though he told Michelle last night that he didn't want to...

Seems like some things have changed in the last 24 hours.

Either that or he's telling Nat/Kev this stuff just to appease them?????
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 10:45 pm to
Conversation between Jeff & Jordan at 5:44 our time...

quote:

Jeff tells Jordan that he told K/N they're going up but that Russ is the target. Jeff says he's worried now though that K/N would definitely put Jeff up next week if they get HOH and would be justified. He's considering putting Russ & Michele up but Jordan is concerned. Jeff says that he would tell them that one of them is lying and we can't trust them together. But Jordan suggests that K/N may be lying. Jeff says if they stick to the plan with K/N and get rid of Russell after POV, then he likes Michele and Jordan vs Natalie & Kevin for HOH.
Jeff says that if somehow Russ stays, Kevin is going, and Jeff will tell Russ he stuck with the plan.
As of now, the plan is to put K/N up but definitely try to get Russell out if possible.


Seems he's really struggling who to put up (I know we already know Kev/Nat have been put up, but he really struggled with this one)
This post was edited on 8/21/09 at 10:45 pm
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 10:50 pm to
10 minutes later Nat Joins Jor/Jeff in the Green Room:

quote:

Jordan tells Nat the plan again (N/K up but Russ is target). Nat again pushes for Russ & michele to go up now. Jeff leaves Jordan and Nat alone in the GR, and Nat continues to say Mi and Russ are together. Nat says that they are shady and wouldn't they rather be in F4 with Kevin and Nat?
Jeff comes back and Nat asks if he's set on his plan and wouldn't he rather put Russ and Michele up? Jeff says he's considered it but he still likes his plan. He has a hard time switching up right now since he hasn't rolled with them through the game. He knows that Nat doesn't like it, but Russ is definitely the target. Nat thinks that Michele won't go for it, but J/J say that she will go with the house.
Posted by GeauxLSUSam
NLU Indians
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 11:00 pm to
I really hope they are smart and vote Natalie out this week.
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 11:12 pm to
Natalie? I'd go for Kevin. He's the brains of that "side" and he's done better at the physical activities. I'd say he's the bigger threat right now.

Why do you say Natalie? I know she's a pestering dumbass, but it's an easy win over her...
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