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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:21 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:21 am to
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Also I may be wrong but I thought the cousin went to the police the day after the story broke on brendon. March 4th or something. Couldn't be wrong.


I'm thinking this was after Kratz's ridiculous press conference. Someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. She didn't provide a single detail to police that was not covered in that press conference that I'm aware of, either.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:23 am to
I'm pretty sure it was after the press conference.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:30 am to
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Does anyone have any problems with the 30 some facts I listed previously on this page?


Yes. Some are facts, some are speculation, some are irrelevant, and some are contradictory.

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And if everyone agrees with these facts, is there really room for reasonable doubt?


You're doing exactly what you're accusing the documentary of doing.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:33 am to
My understanding is the girls information was what led to them talking to bd at school well before thetape and subsequent news conference. I highly doubt the little cousin watches the local news regularly. But maybe im wrong about that. Maybe she watches face the nation and is up to date on all local and national news in a manner nobody else on the compound is.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:34 am to
I mean it was a big case involving close family members. Not too fair out of the realm to believe she watched the news.


I'm 98 precent sure she went to the cops after the confession. Trying to confirm.



March 7th is when she talked to the cops
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 11:37 am
Posted by Rou Leed
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:41 am to
My understanding is she asked bd why he was crying uncontrollably frequently. He told her. She told someone in authority at school. School contacted police. Discussions with bd began at school leading to tape and then press conference. Not sure when she talked to police.
Posted by Rou Leed
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:48 am to
One of the big problems I have with this and the west memphis three also os that there really is no concrete believeable story describing what they were doing at the time of the murders. This is really straight forward and easy to recall and present if you are not murdering people at the times in question and in the digital age its so easy to prove what and where you are doing something if you are innocent.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:52 am to
I can imagine it's pretty thrilling for the degenerates to kill people then prey on people's liberal sympathies to convince the world they are innocent and get out of jail. Im sure the memphis kids have really enjoyed all the famous people they duped with their movie.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:58 am to
Not to jump subject but I can understand people thinking avery did it. I'm not sure myself one way or the other



But the West Memphis three didn't kill those kids. There is no evidence at all that supports it


What's a concrete believable story about what they were doing during the murder?


Their story is doing what they always do. Hanging out at the salvage yard.



Also technology was no where near what it is today in 2005 or 1993.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:05 pm to
All three of the memphis kids are telling other kids they did it. Maybe all the kids are lying but why would they? Maybe the kids were lying about doing it to try to scare other kids, don't know. Regardless of what defense lawyers tell you, people that did not murder someone do not usually say they did. Its pretty simple and seems to get lost in all this nonsensical talk about the mental capacity of bd or miskelley.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:07 pm to
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My understanding is the girls information was what led to them talking to bd at school well before thetape and subsequent news conference.


Well, I'm fairly certain your timeline is off, but I'm more than open to some information to support this.

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I highly doubt the little cousin watches the local news regularly. But maybe im wrong about that. Maybe she watches face the nation and is up to date on all local and national news in a manner nobody else on the compound is.


You do? Members of her family are being accused of murder in a small town, and you don't think that she would watch the news along with the rest of that town and her family?
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:07 pm to
Damien elcols was the only one accused of telling kids he did it



And I could see him lying about it. Dude is a attention whore



But he didn't kill three kids.


Jesse miskelly is the kid who "confessed" to police. His confession would make brendon dassy's look by the book.



The fact that all you have is "those kids told other kids" let's me know you don't know much about that case


But let's get back on topic.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:13 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:13 pm to
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in the digital age its so easy to prove what and where you are doing something if you are innocent.




The "West Memphis Three" murders occurred in 1993, during the infancy of the Internet. In 2005, 84% of the population was still not even using the Internet. These events didn't happen in the days of social media and digital footprints as we know them today. Was there even Internet connectivity at the Avery home?
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:15 pm to
There is a good link in this thread about memphis boys that details how each kid confessed to peers. I recommend you read it.

You cannot say the little girl is so dumb the cops coerced her to tell then say she is capable of retaining details of a crime scene from a press conference she watched on tv. They really cant be selectively smart enough to retain information then dumb enough to be bullied. Its ridiculous. She couldn't have remembered it in tje detail unless she was told. She obviously changed her tune when other averys leaned on her family.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:22 pm to
In either case just basic phone records are pretty damning. Particularly avery who is talking directly to victim and others intermittently placing him at the scene of the crime when the crime occurred. There was some other damning phone evidence in Memphis that I forgot the particulars on. If you have a phone today you can pretty much show exactly where you are at any time of the day.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:25 pm to
Hahaha. Phone evidence between three teenage boys?


Yeah. I think you need to read up on the west memlhis three.


And we don't know the scene of the crime when it comes to Teresa.


The state couldn't even use the same location in the trials.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:33 pm to
It is completely obvious to anyone who is not a dipshite she was shot in the garage and burned in Steve's fire pit. You maybe need to stop reading all this bs defense team propaganda and apply some basic common sense. She walked in was attacked and disposed of all in the same little area she was last reported to be alive and where her remains were found. It doesn't get any simpler really.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:38 pm to
steveavery.org LINK

This site was working yesterday and isnt now.


blowback getting real?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:47 pm to
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You cannot say the little girl is so dumb the cops coerced her to tell then say she is capable of retaining details of a crime scene from a press conference she watched on tv.


She said, days AFTER the press conference, that months before she had seen Brendan crying and asked him what was wrong. She then stated that he told her he and Steve killed her and burned her in the fire pit. Or in other words... EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE!!! On the stand she admitted to saying what she heard about the story. The girl wanted to "know" something and look important to her friends.

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They really cant be selectively smart enough to retain information then dumb enough to be bullied


This is ridiculous. Being bullied has nothing to do with being smart for a young teenager. Hell, I'd bet 99% of the richest people in the world were bullied as teens. Plus she remembered like 4 events that everyone in town was talking about 24/7. Pretty easy to remember that.

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She couldn't have remembered it in tje detail unless she was told.


She was told. 3 days earlier in a news conference.

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She obviously changed her tune when other averys leaned on her family.


She obviously changed her tune when she realized she had to testify and would be in deep shite if she were caught lying. Which she would have because they were asking her to go into detail, something she couldn't do because... she made it all up.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:52 pm to
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It is completely obvious to anyone who is not a dipshite she was shot in the garage and burned in Steve's fire pit.


The garage that had none of her blood, but did have deer blood in the cracks of the cement. Odd that they were able to clean her blood up while missing the deer blood. That's supervillian shite right there. The Legion of Doom would have a hard time pulling this off, much less Steve Avery's dumb arse.
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