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re: Netflix Loses Starz Deal, Stock Crushed In After Hours Trading
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:10 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:10 am to TigerinATL
Stock is plunging; streaming content rights are going up substantially; a few million subscribers probably cancelled their accounts; name brand value is skewing negatively... sounds like bad news all around to me brah.
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Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:16 am to Freauxzen
What's going to end up happening, or what movie companies hope happens, is everything goes streaming......wherether it be through Netflix, cable companies, etc. No more portable media aka DVD's, Blue Ray. Portable media means copying, pirating.
They want everything, except movie theaters of course (which are just about dead anyway) to be controlled through streaming content.
They want everything, except movie theaters of course (which are just about dead anyway) to be controlled through streaming content.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:43 am to simbo
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movie theaters of course (which are just about dead anyway)
wait... what
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:50 am to keakdasneak
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Are there any stats as to how many members ditched DVD's with the changes? I for one did. I don't see people going back to DVD's with this. They just say frick it.
I never stopped using DVDs from netflix. For one thing their selection of DVDs is far far greater than their streaming selection.
You've been missing out on a lot of good movies if you've only been using netflix for streaming.
A good 80-90% of the movies in my queue aren't available for streaming.
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:52 am to constant cough
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You've been missing out on a lot of good movies if you've only been using netflix for streaming.
That's what I say. I actually ADDED Blu-Ray to my discs since the price increase was announced.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:52 am to constant cough
Yeah but you are an old fogey that likes old movies.
The average movie viewer today doesn't touch anything older than 1999 and probably hasn't stopped on a black and white flicka show in their life.
Heck, my sister loves old movies and the selection netflix gives her and she is dropping down to 1 dvd and streaming. She thought about dropping the whole thing, but now that they have killed blockbuster, there really isn't anywhere else to go.
The average movie viewer today doesn't touch anything older than 1999 and probably hasn't stopped on a black and white flicka show in their life.
Heck, my sister loves old movies and the selection netflix gives her and she is dropping down to 1 dvd and streaming. She thought about dropping the whole thing, but now that they have killed blockbuster, there really isn't anywhere else to go.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:52 am to simbo
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They want everything, except movie theaters of course (which are just about dead anyway)
Movie theaters had a seriously good year this year when a lot of other industries are in the crapper.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:55 am to keakdasneak
quote:Not really. Ticket sales were down again. Revenues were up due to 3-D sales and increased ticket prices.
Movie theaters had a seriously good year this year when a lot of other industries are in the crapper.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:56 am to TigerMyth36
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Yeah but you are an old fogey that likes old movies.
It's true if you're into older movies you pretty much have to have the DVD plan.
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:57 am to Muppet
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Are they launching their own streaming service or just getting out of that business altogether?
StarzGo
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:59 am to TigerMyth36
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Not really. Ticket sales were down again. Revenues were up due to 3-D sales and increased ticket prices.
My business is owned by a company that owns movie theatres worldwide. They have been pretty excited about this year.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 11:11 am to Tiger JJ
Maybe Blockbuster is planning a comeback
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:22 pm to keakdasneak
quote:They shouldn't be. As I said. Ticket sales are down. The only reason revenue has not declined is the increased price of 3-D and 3-D movies are slowly declining in ticket sales except for Major releases.
My business is owned by a company that owns movie theatres worldwide. They have been pretty excited about this year.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:23 pm to TigerMyth36
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Not really. Ticket sales were down again. Revenues were up due to 3-D sales and increased ticket prices.
Thank you. Drudgereport had an article explaining this.......revenues were up but ticket numbers were still way down. Prices went up.
My point was the way the movie industry plans to get pirating under control again is through streaming. They'll once again be able to control the availability of their product once portable media is gone. It'll take a while, bandwidth and other considerations, but they'll then once more have the consumer bent over.
The same is going to happen with music....cloud content.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:26 pm to simbo
Considering the only reason i only sub'd to netflix was the day after streaming of Spartacus, this is bad news for me 
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:41 pm to simbo
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My point was the way the movie industry plans to get pirating under control again is through streaming.
Then they underestimate the pirates. There is already software out there to save DRM protected video streams. They would need to have DRM built into the Monitors and Video Cards to have a prayer at stopping piracy.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:56 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah, streaming doesn't stop piracy, it just makes it much easier.
Plus the full move to streaming won't happen in our lifetime if ever. Movie theaters will always be around at least until the Zombie Apocalypse makes it too dangerous to leave the compound and Dvds aren't on the way out anytime soon.
Plus the full move to streaming won't happen in our lifetime if ever. Movie theaters will always be around at least until the Zombie Apocalypse makes it too dangerous to leave the compound and Dvds aren't on the way out anytime soon.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:56 pm to TigerinATL
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There is already software out there to save DRM protected video streams. They would need to have DRM built into the Monitors and Video Cards to have a prayer at stopping piracy.
That's already present in the form of HDCP, which is implied by using the HDMI connection. Has this really been broken, or are people just taking advantage of the analog hole, i.e. the component/optical outputs which are still active on STBs? I know the Hauppauge HD-PVR lets you record that.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 1:11 pm to TigerMyth36
What I have read though is that when limted to certains devices, movie companies can encrypt the stream without worrying about it playing on every device in the world, like DVD or Blue Ray players.
Certainly, people will work to decode the stream and round and round we go.
Certainly, people will work to decode the stream and round and round we go.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 1:18 pm to tims0912367
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That's already present in the form of HDCP, which is implied by using the HDMI connection. Has this really been broken
Yes, here's a review of a HDCP stripper. LINK You can never close every security hole. Even if they did lock the system down all the way to the monitor, I'm sure with the proper set up a camcorder aimed at a monitor could make high quality bootlegs, and that's a hole they'll never be able to close.
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 1:19 pm
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