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re: Mindhunter (Season 2 Now Streaming) Spoilers start page 2
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:05 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:05 pm to wildtigercat93
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Well againit’s not a real character sooo
This was set up in season 1 not sure why you’re so surprised
I know the kids not a real character, just like the girl who Carr is based on wasn’t a lesbian. But like Holdens relationship it really isn’t crucial to the plot line and it wasn’t some shocking moment that had me asking “wait, did this really happen???”
They obviously take liberties to help character development. I’m just saying you can create problems with Tench and his son without having him involved in a murder of a 2 year old. The most real part of the show is the investigating and interviewing of actual murderers, and now there is a fake one in the mix
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:03 pm to WangaTang
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do you need to watch season 1 before season 2??? or do they not tie in to each other?
Why do people even ask these retarded questions?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:57 pm to Fewer Kilometers
The last episode. What were they talking about the 63 year black guy that had the Polaroids? Did they ever question him?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:49 am to SmackDaniels
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The last episode. What were they talking about the 63 year black guy that had the Polaroids? Did they ever question him?
The cops being involved in some sort of cover-up makes too much sense sadly, that last scene with the ATL FBI agent explaining the 'white-washing' of that pedo-house and the polaroids. Decent chance others were involved and the APD has some knowledge/screwed the pooch, then swept the rest under the rug. White police force in a Black city in the 70s/80s doesn't breed confidence that the ultimate findings were thorough and legitimate
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:53 am to wildtigercat93
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The only thing that bothered me about Holts personal life storyline was the wife,
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. Wasn’t as flashy as Holt,
Do you mean Bill Tench? Is there anyone in the show even named Holt?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:55 am to TheCaterpillar
Yeah I fire typed that out, had a brain fart
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:55 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:44 pm to TheCaterpillar
I felt the Manson segment was amazing and maybe a little misunderstood. Manson put the blame on Susan Adkins, Tex, etc. He kept calling his followers “your kids”. Others made the kids be this way, while it was an actual case of the devil made them do it. He even says he was in the agents cell when he was 8 years old. Made me think of how he met Squeaky Fromme and Sandra Good. He knew exactly what they were running from when he met them, all the way to specific detail. Listen to it again and picture him as a clever and manipulating devil.
At the end of the episode, Charlie reminds Holden exactly who he was dealing with.
As you sleep tonight, I will be destroying the world.....cease to exist.
At the end of the episode, Charlie reminds Holden exactly who he was dealing with.
As you sleep tonight, I will be destroying the world.....cease to exist.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:38 pm to JBeam
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cops being involved in some sort of cover-up makes too much sense sadly, that last scene with the ATL FBI agent explaining the 'white-washing' of that pedo-house and the polaroids. Decent chance others were involved and the APD has some knowledge/screwed the pooch, then swept the rest under the rug. White police force in a Black city in the 70s/80s doesn't breed confidence that the ultimate findings were thorough and legitimate
Did the child murders stop after the arrest and conviction? If so, then they more than likely have the right guy.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:52 pm to HappyTownTiger
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I felt the Manson segment was amazing and maybe a little misunderstood. Manson put the blame on Susan Adkins, Tex, etc. He kept calling his followers “your kids”. Others made the kids be this way, while it was an actual case of the devil made them do it. He even says he was in the agents cell when he was 8 years old. Made me think of how he met Squeaky Fromme and Sandra Good. He knew exactly what they were running from when he met them, all the way to specific detail. Listen to it again and picture him as a clever and manipulating devil.
I think most people, who know who Manson is, saw it this way
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:29 am to jg8623
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:32 am to Emteein
Reading up on the Atlanta murders, I believe the murders stopped immediately after his arrest.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:37 am to Emteein
quote:They did stop. But the APD did completely stop looking at open cases about missing children( Until earlier this week).
Did the child murders stop after the arrest and conviction? If so, then they more than likely have the right guy.
As I recall, from listening to the Atlanta Monster podcast, the biggest piece of evidence they tied to Williams was the green carpet fibers that they traced back to a specific distributor that Williams’ parents bought the carpet from. It was something like that. The podcast is worth your time. And the actor that played Williams did a hell of a job. (Also, the director of Atlanta Monster podcast phone interviews Wayne Williams)
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 8:40 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:44 am to Dawgirl
More important than the fact that there were no murders after he was arrested was the fact that there were no murders once he was pulled over. Keep in mind the media did not know yet that he was being observed. Also the connection to him being an ambulance chaser and filming crime scenes was much more extensive than presented in the show. The body was found 2 days later just downstream from where the officer heard the splash and thought the splash sounded like a body. The officer was a competitive swimmer so he had some experience knowing what a body sounded like. He also had a rope and gloves in his car. He was pulled over a couple of miles away from the bridge and when asked why he was pulled over he mentioned what we saw in the show. The fibers also matched for nothin he carpet and the German Shepherd and they found a violet acetate bedspread in his room. There was also witnesses who identified him in the area of murders after the fact and one guy who thought it was him and got away from him. I know it is all circumstantial, but just seems enough reason to believe it was more than likely he was the guy. He also failed the polygraph (opposite of the show).
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:08 am to JBeam
At the time, I don't remember there being any discussion of Williams not being the killer. From the news reports that I remember, they'd "caught the guy". That was it.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:14 am to Fewer Kilometers
I've listened to and read so much stuff about these murders.
No one will convince me that Williams was not the guy. There is just too much circumstantial evidence. From fibers to dog hairs to timelines to lack of alibis to criminal history to witness descriptions of him, etc.
He's the guy.
No one will convince me that Williams was not the guy. There is just too much circumstantial evidence. From fibers to dog hairs to timelines to lack of alibis to criminal history to witness descriptions of him, etc.
He's the guy.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:22 am to TheCaterpillar
I think Williams is the dude. But I also recognize that APD lumped together information and was ready to put this case in the rearview mirror as quickly as possible. Until earlier this year, they still had DNA evidence that was never tested because they had "the guy".
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:03 am to JBeam
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The fibers also matched for nothin he carpet and the German Shepherd and they found a violet acetate bedspread in his room. There was also witnesses who identified him in the area of murders after the fact and one guy who thought it was him and got away from him. I know it is all circumstantial, but just seems enough reason to believe it was more than likely he was the guy. He also failed the polygraph (opposite of the show).
Also he handed out fliers attracting 11-14 year old boys.
I know it's somewhat a fictional show but no fricking way a white guy did this shite. Especially after the 10th kid was murdered and everyone was paranoid as shite. That's exactly how it would go down for a white guy to walk into a black neighborhood and try to get him in a car the way Agent Gregg Smith did in the show.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:59 am to Emteein
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Did the child murders stop after the arrest and conviction? If so, then they more than likely have the right guy.
You missed the entire point. Part of the question is: "If a black kid goes missing in the late 70s, does anyone even give a frick? Would you even hear about it?"
I knew in this political climate, people were going to flip out about the subject matter, despite it being portrayed in such an honest way.
My opinion on this season:
Felt more "Age of Ultron" than "Civil War". I REALLY enjoy the dynamic between the 3 main characters. Carr/Holden/Tench really balance each other out well in this season.
The scenes with the interviews are still the most captivating parts of the show. Kemper's "you've only talked to the ones you've caught" line was so perfectly placed. Manson's whole interview was just enthralling. They nailed him.
I felt like I was watching the TV version of "Zodiac" throughout the season and completely forgot Fincher did "Zodiac" until I looked it up. He definitely has a knack for presenting cases like this in a very engaging and mostly truthful manner.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 12:08 pm to ShamelessPel
As a side note: I watched Silence of the lambs because I still had the itch after knocking this out
Is that Jodie foster accent the worst in movie history?
Is that Jodie foster accent the worst in movie history?
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