re: Mindhunter on Netflix is excellent

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subject matter (serial killers)

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Yep. I'll never watch it.

Late thread revival, but..

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That seemed a little unrealistic

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I didn't find it too unrealistic. The guy pretty much showed that he was a boy-scout type and not keen on bending the rules.

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Unless it's revealed in the final episode, any reason for the BTK stuff in the cold openings? Do Holden & Tench (or rather, the people they portray in real life) cross paths with him in the future, and we get some kind of plot flash-forward in a later season?

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BTK was a profiling failure IRL. He was active for a long time, though, and he made for a merry chase with letters and such, which makes him interesting to follow.

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What I find hard to believe is that they let him stay in the group

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The group that didn’t want to turn in the tape never knew if it was Carr or Smith.

Just finished watching the show. Starts out a bit slow, but once the second episode hits,they go on a run of incredible episodes. The quality definitely goes downhill a bit in the last couple episodes. It’s like all of a sudden everyone became very dumb. I also found the main character extremely annoying, but that didn’t hurt my enjoyment of the show like it sometimes does with other shows I’ve watched. Last thing, the Kemper performance is incredible. The character appearing got the show going.

They all heard Smith say that. I think they just assumed he was reacting to what had just happened. Bill still accused Carr. Holden didn’t really care. He never really wanted to cover up what he said anyway. The only person it really would have mattered to was their boss, and he was buddies with Smith’s dad.

A buddy of mine said he watched an interview with David Fincher, and he said he was hoping for at least 5 seasons. If it works out that way, maybe we'll see a flash-forward with BTK's arrest after all?

Finally watched the last episode...speaking of BTK, was he burning some drawings from an unsolved murder in the first or second (can't remember exactly) episode?

Anyway, I'm onboard for season 2, whenever it airs...

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A buddy of mine said he watched an interview with David Fincher, and he said he was hoping for at least 5 seasons. If it works out that way, maybe we'll see a flash-forward with BTK's arrest after all?

Finally watched the last episode...speaking of BTK, was he burning some drawings from an unsolved murder in the first or second (can't remember exactly) episode?

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We are still in the late 70's when season one ends. BTK wasn't caught until 2005.

From what I have heard on podcast and other articles. BTK had killed 3-5 women during the 70's. But during this time period he was just toying with authorites by sending random messages via the postal service.

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We are still in the late 70's when season one ends. BTK wasn't caught until 2005.

From what I have heard on podcast and other articles. BTK had killed 3-5 women during the 70's. But during this time period he was just toying with authorites by sending random messages via the postal service.

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Correct, he wasn't caught until 2005. But if Fincher has a long game in mind, as opposed to just a "one and done" season, I wouldn't be shocked if he jumps the timeline in a final episode(s), showing an older Ford and/or Tench playing a role in catching him.

I dunno, to me anyway, as chilling as it is to include BTK on the side, I'd think they wouldn't be including those scenes unless there was some (eventual) closure with it. I only say this b/c we know who BTK was since he got caught IRL, unlike Zodiac (another Fincher project) where the authorities were left twisting in the wind at the end of the day...

ETA: I also feel like they might eventually deal with BTK because, like I'd mentioned before, one of those those drawings he burned looked eerily similar to a crime scene of one of the murders being investigated in the first episode, so it'd be a "full circle" kind of thing...

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Anyone who loves Mindhunter will really enjoy Manhunt: Unabomber as well.

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wow Im shocked two people have posted this

I watched these two shows back to back and was blown away by the 180 degree contrast in quality.

Mindhunter has suspenseful writing and a visual style that plays in to the tension. Only real failing is the girlfriend who is totally implausible and a worthless bitch.

Manhunt is cliche after cliche with absolutely no credible dialogue and one implausible situation after another. I mean literally every scene sounds like it was written by an 8th grader that read the FBI wikipedia page.

Other than Paul Bettany's performance (whom I always enjoy), there is absolutely nothing good I can say about this amateurish poorly written hack job of an otherwise very promising story.

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Mindhunter has suspenseful writing and a visual style that plays in to the tension. Only real failing is the girlfriend who is totally implausible and a worthless bitch.

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His girlfriend gets on my nerves, but I think she's valuable for calling out his "home" personality being too close to his "work" personality, which he didn't seem to grasp until the final episode.