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re: Making a Murderer - Part 2
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:29 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:29 pm to brmark70816
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I have always provided.
bullshite. You have a record of doing the opposite. You proclaim something true and pretend that alone makes it so. When challenged, you say things like "reason," "common knowledge," or "basic info" and again pretend that those claims hold weight. They don't. They mean nothing, particularly coming from someone who has said that it doesn't matter how the murder happened.
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It has been proven that she never brought it with her and she never left her home until 1 pm that day.
Both of these claims are bullshite.
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They got her pings from cell towers to prove it.
No, they don't.
I'll wait for your links and sources, though...
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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They mean nothing, particularly coming from someone who has said that it doesn't matter how the murder happened.
Does it matter? In the context of the trial, it does not. Personally, I do not know how he killed her or where. I have repeated that over and over. I am trying to get everybody to understand that it can't be proven how he did it. He destroyed the evidence. But he can still be proven guilty, which he was.
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Both of these claims are bullshite.
This is a record of her cell phone calls from the day of her disappearance (LINK She pinged off the same tower until at least 12:54 pm. It only goes to reason that she was at home the whole time.
This is a copy of the day planner (LINK The defense says that she had this on her the whole day, which is why it is fishy that the ex had it. The reason is cause she lists notes from earlier in the morning and she wouldn't have time to bring it home. But if she didn't leave until later and left the page at home, the page would still be at home. She wouldn't need the page with her, cause she brought her palm pilot. The palm pilot was found in the burn pit.
Once again, good enough?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:20 pm to brmark70816
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Does it matter? In the context of the trial, it does not.
Yes, it matters. Some people want to know what actually happened, rather than lapping up the bullshite Kratz pumped out.
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But he can still be proven guilty, which he was.
No, he wasn't. A jury returned a guilty verdict...and that's it.
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It only goes to reason that she was at home the whole time.
Wrong. It's reasonable that she was within 20-30 or so miles from her home. Think of all the things you do that close to home. Now, think of what you might do with 30 miles of your house if you frequently worked away from home in the area.
Pinging the tower doesn't mean she was home. That's just a guess because it fits what you've decided is true.
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This is a copy of the day planner (LINK ). The defense says that she had this on her the whole day, which is why it is fishy that the ex had it. The reason is cause she lists notes from earlier in the morning and she wouldn't have time to bring it home. But if she didn't leave until later and left the page at home, the page would still be at home. She wouldn't need the page with her, cause she brought her palm pilot. The palm pilot was found in the burn pit.
None of that "debunks" anything. At all.
You caught up yet?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yes, it matters. Some people want to know what actually happened, rather than lapping up the bullshite Kratz pumped out.
I do not care what Kratz said. He has been outed as a creep for many years. I never believed his narrative and put no stock in it. We will never know the circumstances of this crime. Avery isn't going to confess and nobody would believe him, about the circumstances, if he did.
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Wrong. It's reasonable that she was within 20-30 or so miles from her home. Think of all the things you do that close to home. Now, think of what you might do with 30 miles of your house if you frequently worked away from home in the area. Pinging the tower doesn't mean she was home. That's just a guess because it fits what you've decided is true
Small point, but I'll give it to you. On the flip side, you have to concede that she is not in Sheboygan as well. She was close to or around her home. The defense theory is she is too far away to return home, so that the page has to be in the car with her. The note they said she had to write happened at 11:35 am. That would leave over an hour before she leaves that cell tower area. That is plenty of time.
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You caught up yet?
I was never behind, but thank you.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:09 pm to brmark70816
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I do not care what Kratz said.
Then why do you continue repeating his talking points?
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Small point, but I'll give it to you.
It isn't a small point. It's the only point that really matters so far. You made the claim that things have been debunked when they haven't. When I pointed out that you were incorrect, you dug in and made more ridiculous claims. At least you're showing a willingness to concede, so that's some progress.
The problem with the entire narrative is that there are too many inconsistencies. No one wants to admit that because once you start admitting to the small things, the big things become more and more plausible.
Avery may be guilty, and I think he probable is. That doesn't make Brendan guilty or his brother innocent.
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On the flip side, you have to concede that she is not in Sheboygan as well.
I didn't claim that she was.
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I was never behind
That's been shown to be incorrect from the start.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:34 pm to TXGunslinger10
Just finished.
Remind me never to move to Wisconsin.
Remind me never to move to Wisconsin.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:15 am to Salamander_Wilson
Don’t know if this has been stated? Kratz seems to be one of the biggest grease balls to ever walk the earth, calling his own press conference at the hearing for Brenden? He knows the truth, and he’s over compensating for it.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:21 am to shallowminded
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Don’t know if this has been stated? Kratz seems to be one of the biggest grease balls to ever walk the earth, calling his own press conference at the hearing for Brenden? He knows the truth, and he’s over compensating for it.
nope, you are the first to have this opinion
Posted on 11/13/18 at 11:54 am to brmark70816
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brmark70816
Which of these two friggin' morons are you?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:00 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I find it so disengenous that the DA continues to patronize the Halbach's by saying how awful it is they have to be dragged through this, when it was the State that created all of the torture and rape allegations that had absolute zero proof. They sure weren't thinking about the Halbach's then. All they cared about was pinning Avery for this case.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:35 pm to Sao
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Which of these two friggin' morons are you?
I don't really have a dog in this dumbass fight, but this was hilarious.
maybe he's this guy:
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:28 pm to VinegarStrokes
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that brmark70816 is some type of small town LEO.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:31 pm to VinegarStrokes
Zellner Released New Info Today
Sure seems like she's more confident than ever the murder was committed by Dassey's brother and step-dad.
I believe Steven & Brendan are both innocent, but I don't know how I feel about Zellner accusing people of murder in the court of public opinion without substantial proof.
Sure seems like she's more confident than ever the murder was committed by Dassey's brother and step-dad.
I believe Steven & Brendan are both innocent, but I don't know how I feel about Zellner accusing people of murder in the court of public opinion without substantial proof.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:40 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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I don't know how I feel about Zellner accusing people of murder in the court of public opinion without substantial proof.
Yeah, she's basically doing what Kratz did. I'm not a huge fan of that.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:41 pm to Sao
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:42 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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I believe Steven & Brendan are both innocent, but I don't know how I feel about Zellner accusing people of murder in the court of public opinion without substantial proof.
bobby dassey is suspect as hell
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:43 pm to PortCityTiger24
This season had some moments that made me question his/their guilt, but overall a pretty worthless season.
Just Zellner acting holier than thou, throwing accusations around, and acting like God's gift to the legal community.
What a terrible shitbag she is.
Just Zellner acting holier than thou, throwing accusations around, and acting like God's gift to the legal community.
What a terrible shitbag she is.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:46 pm to VinegarStrokes
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i never knew that this dude died just days before the Steven Avery trial actually took place. weird.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:46 pm to Lawyered
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WHy would Steve Avery even open the hood of her car?
Today, Zelner said that the killer replaced the battery to move the vehicle.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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This season had some moments that made me question his/their guilt, but overall a pretty worthless season.
Just Zellner acting holier than thou, throwing accusations around, and acting like God's gift to the legal community.
What a terrible shitbag she is.
when we first watched season 1, we couldn't turn it off and flew through the entire season. Season 2 was definitely a drag. The best stuff was in the last episode or two when they started talking about Bobby and Scott. The reinactment that they did where "Bobby" followed Teresa off of the property was thought-provoking.
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