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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:41 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:41 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Watching the finale again.
Jack - They're all dead?
Christian - Everyone dies sometime, Kiddo. Some of them before you, some of them long after you.
I think we can put the idea that they died in the crash to rest.
this is what I was saying last night... for a show where nothing ever seemed to be spelled out they pretty much spelled this out completely
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:43 pm to PortCityTiger24
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I also am curious why Jack or Desmond weren't turned into smoke or transformed into something since they went down there.
when Jack turned the light back on, I thought for sure he was going to be the new smoke and Hurley the new Jacob
I'm ok with Desmond just being immune because he's Desmond.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:45 pm to Uncle Stu
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(short of Jack's Street Fighter pose in the rain)
I want to change my avatar to Jack's awesome jump punch
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:46 pm to St Augustine
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a show where nothing ever seemed to be spelled out they pretty much spelled this out completely
actually a lot of stuff has been spelled out, but people just didn't want to accept it.
After Jacob explained that the island was the cork that held evil in, people still questioned the purpose of the island or if Jacob was even good.
People still were trying to figure out MIB's name after his mother stated that she didn't have a name for him. Lame? Yeah, but that was the answer that was provided.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:47 pm to TulaneTigerFan
It really sucks that the show is over. I remember how I felt when I first saw the trees moving and heard the smoke monster
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:49 pm to Joe
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I loved the finale, and right now I have a pretty good feeling overall towards Lost.
Until last night, I couldn't wait to rewatch all 6 seasons on blu-ray when they came out.
Now i'm afraid that I will notice too many little things and say "Hey! They never explained that!" or "What the hell was the point of that?"
They don't bother me at all right now, because I can't think of many offhand (dharma food drops being one), but I'm afraid that rewatching the whole series will ruin it for me.
Thoughts?
I dont know. I will rewatch the entire show probably when season 6 comes out. I have a few friends who are going to watch the show now that it is over and I'd like to watch the first 2 seasons again especially.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:51 pm to St Augustine
the alarm will start to go off in one page 
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I want to change my avatar to Jack's awesome jump punch
one of the funniest moments in 6 seasons of lost
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:55 pm to sgallo3
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It really sucks that the show is over. I remember how I felt when I first saw the trees moving and heard the smoke monster
agreed...however I have to admit that the moment where I knew I was along for the entire show was when Locke got up on the beach and could walk again
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:55 pm to St Augustine
Don't get me wrong, overall I thought it was solid, especially after re-watching it. The last 20 minutes, from the scene where Locke approaches the church and has his conversation with Ben, to Jack's conversation with his father, is just amazing.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:56 pm to catholictigerfan
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the alarm will start to go off in one page
I missed all the day pages up until around 5pm, I read all of last night until 2 am...are we trying to hit a certain number?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:56 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Maybe another little plot hole. I mean, if the island magic no longer worked, then shouldn't MIB have just died since he did not have a body anymore.
Also, why did smokie have a hard on to destroy the island anyway?
Since he had never done it before, he would have had no idea that it would be a very slow shaky destruction of the island. It could have been just as fast as turning the wheel moved the island.
Not sure what his plan was if the island just sunk to the bottom of the seas instantaneously.
Seems more of a plot contrivance than any sound reasoning on the part of the MIB that all of a sudden he wanted to destroy the island.
Since he kept trying to kill the candidates, they were never necessary for him to leave. He could have left anytime. One wonders why he never left on the sailboat or submarine.
Don't toss out to me that he could never leave until the light was destroyed, because that was not his plan until the end of the last episode. He actually ordered the death of Desmond before he decided to use Desmond to destroy the island.
So, if he did not need all of the candidates in order to leave, why had he never left? What actually kept him there?
What was his plan before he decided to destroy the island?
Why did he not just evaporate upon the extinguishing of the island power since his body was dead?
These really aren't nitpicks, they are legitimate questions.
Also, why did smokie have a hard on to destroy the island anyway?
Since he had never done it before, he would have had no idea that it would be a very slow shaky destruction of the island. It could have been just as fast as turning the wheel moved the island.
Not sure what his plan was if the island just sunk to the bottom of the seas instantaneously.
Seems more of a plot contrivance than any sound reasoning on the part of the MIB that all of a sudden he wanted to destroy the island.
Since he kept trying to kill the candidates, they were never necessary for him to leave. He could have left anytime. One wonders why he never left on the sailboat or submarine.
Don't toss out to me that he could never leave until the light was destroyed, because that was not his plan until the end of the last episode. He actually ordered the death of Desmond before he decided to use Desmond to destroy the island.
So, if he did not need all of the candidates in order to leave, why had he never left? What actually kept him there?
What was his plan before he decided to destroy the island?
Why did he not just evaporate upon the extinguishing of the island power since his body was dead?
These really aren't nitpicks, they are legitimate questions.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:58 pm to TigerMyth36
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Also, why did smokie have a hard on to destroy the island anyway?
Since he had never done it before, he would have had no idea that it would be a very slow shaky destruction of the island. It could have been just as fast as turning the wheel moved the island.
Not sure what his plan was if the island just sunk to the bottom of the seas instantaneously.
Seems more of a plot contrivance than any sound reasoning on the part of the MIB that all of a sudden he wanted to destroy the island.
Since he kept trying to kill the candidates, they were never necessary for him to leave. He could have left anytime. One wonders why he never left on the sailboat or submarine.
Don't toss out to me that he could never leave until the light was destroyed, because that was not his plan until the end of the last episode. He actually ordered the death of Desmond before he decided to use Desmond to destroy the island.
So, if he did not need all of the candidates in order to leave, why had he never left? What actually kept him there?
What was his plan before he decided to destroy the island?
Why did he not just evaporate upon the extinguishing of the island power since his body was dead?
These really aren't nitpicks, they are legitimate questions.
All the more reason for Jacob and MIB not to exist.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:59 pm to TigerMyth36
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, if he did not need all of the candidates in order to leave, why had he never left? What actually kept him there?
Jacob?
and he needed all of the candidates dead in order to leave, but couldn't kill them himself.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:59 pm to tuck
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If everyone in purgatory is dead and purgatory is timeless such that every person that ever dies is already there, then doesn't it follow that we are all already dead, we just don't know it yet?
I think this may be implied by Jack's injuries occurring in both timelines at the same time. But I can't recall if other people were getting injured and it didn't go through to the purgatory line, which would also imply purgatory was somewhat from Jack's perspective.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:01 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I want to change my avatar to Jack's awesome jump punch
here you go..
ETA: here's the video if you want some other part of it... the punch heard 'round the world.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:04 pm to Decatur
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In an attempt to rerail this thread, I'm gonna going over some of the smaller things I liked about the finale:
Loved the opening sequence with Christian's casket. It really hit home that this thing was wrapping up.
Liked a lot of Sawyer's quips...especially the one about Jack returning from the burning bush and about Jack having a hell of a long con.
The Juliet role in the flash-sideways (still a fertility doctor) really made sense to me and I'm glad they waited so long to show her in the F-S.
Richard and Lapidas: weren't dead after all. On top of that...they survived and got off the Island (for good as far as we know).
Loved Jack's comment to MIB that he disrespected John's memory by wearing his face.
I think we know know that the Egyptians came to the Island much longer before the Romans...considering the hieroglyphs on the plug/cork. It's pretty obvious to me that they built the temple and the statue before the Romans arrived...they just didn't expressly show this. I'm fine with that.
I do think that the uncorking/unplugging activated volcanic forces underneath the Island...a vague reference to the volcano we've known about for a few seasons.
I like how they had Frank repairing the window on the airplane. I think that was a shout-out to some of the fans who made a big deal about that window being out.
All of the skeletons down in the cave...evidence that people have been trying to get at the light source for a very long time.
Love it how MIB died by getting pushed off a cliff. It was a parallel to the way John Locke would have died had Jacob not touched him right after he was pushed out of the building by Anthony Cooper.
Ben as the new Richard = it fits
Kate was HAWT
The show in the endwas about letting go. I think that is a very useful metaphor for the audience to let LOST go and accept it for what it is.
Absolutely, good list. I enjoyed all the "flash memory" scenes I will call them: Sun and Jin when Juliet was doing the ultra-sound to check on Sun's baby was great. Sawyer's reunion with Juliet was well done also but just a little odd since Juliet was married to Jack in the flash-sides. Claire and Kate remembering that Kate helped Claire deliver her baby on the island was good too. But for some reason Charlie's flash-backs after Charlie gave Claire the blanket for the baby really got to me.
Locke's flash-back to when he wiggled his toes on the island was money and then his comment to Jack about hoping someone does for Jack what Jack did for Locke really got me thinking about the nature of the flash-sideways; I think that was the first moment that I thought it might be basically a purgatory. Then when Jack realized that he was dead and embraced his father, that's when I really broke down. And finally, Vincent laying down beside Jack as he was dying, made for a perfect ending for me.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:10 pm to davesdawgs
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Sawyer's reunion with Juliet was well done also but just a little odd since Juliet was married to Jack in the flash-sides.
They were divorced. They lived at separate houses, plus when Juliet, the son, and Jack are at the hospital talking, Juliet said something like "blah blah ... when we were married."
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:15 pm to PortCityTiger24
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People still were trying to figure out MIB's name after his mother stated that she didn't have a name for him.
I was reading somewhere, either EW or something along those lines, and there was a video clip with some woman who is apparently well connected. She had a viewing with a mini-audience (kinda like Kimmels but not as big) and had a Q&A session after. People asked her a bunch of questions, one of which was about the MIBs name. She said that her inside sources claim that in the original script he did have a name (and then she says it) but the writers ended up deciding now to use it. I won't spoil it, but it was a biblical name, although probably not the one most would guess. I have no idea if that is true though.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:19 pm to CocomoLSU
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and i still stand by it, and people haven't really refuted what i'm saying...which is why i post it again
Okay, just read this post by you, and it sums up what I'm saying:
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SFP, Are you looking for a logical, scientific explanation here?
a logical explanation would suffice
they fricked up this show so badly there are none. only silly explanations that don't work with later things or just no explanations at all.
So you admit that, in your mind, there are ZERO explanations that would be sufficient to you.
Yet you still repeat your points over and over. And you're doing this for two reasons IMO. To be kind of a dick, and to try to make legit Lost fans look stupid. That much is more than obvious at this point (and I'm still not fully caught up yet).
Yep, I started skipping his posts long ago.
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