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re: LOST "Happily Ever After" S6.E11 (Desmond-centric)
Posted on 4/6/10 at 12:58 pm to FredSecunda
Posted on 4/6/10 at 12:58 pm to FredSecunda
Agreed.
They have always said that they knew in general the storyline and where it was going, but all the details and subplots...that's all made up along the way.
They have always said that they knew in general the storyline and where it was going, but all the details and subplots...that's all made up along the way.
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 12:59 pm to The Boob
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Anyone have any theories about why Zoe is interested in the electromagnetic hot spots while there is a "war" about to take place?
She's a scientists.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 1:16 pm to steltzequalsbeast
quote:close. ABC wanted it to go on indefinitely but the writers wanted to set an end date so that they could map out the conclusion
my friend is arguing with me and saying that the producers wanted the show to go longer than six season but that ABC decided the 2010 end date. What say you?
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The announcement, first reported last week by E! Online columnists Kristin Veitch and Marc Malkin, comes after executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof publicly called for the network to set an end date for the show�not only to assuage viewer fears that the series, which began to shed viewers in its new time slot this year, was not simply treading water to bulk up its episode count, but to allow writers the ability to plot out the remainder of the series according to the creators' original plan.
Lindelof, who first pushed for such a move during January's Television Critics Association conference, said that having a specific date in mind was "incredibly liberating. Like we've been running a marathon and we actually know where the finish line is for the first time."
"What we didn't know was how long we had to play the story out," Cuse told the Hollywood Reporter, adding that the Lost brain trust has always known where they wanted the storyline to end up.
"By defining the end point we can now really map out the rest of the series in confidence," he said. "We sort of view Lost as a mosaic. Now there are only 48 more tiles to go into that mosaic, and we're figuring out, along with all the other writers, exactly where they go."
In January, Cuse and Lindelof, backed by cocreator J.J. Abrams, voiced their concerns that commercial interests (i.e., ABC keeping the show on air until the last viewer turned) potentially would trump artistic interests (i.e., the producers ending the series on a well thought out and hopefully high note), saying that they hoped the show would run for just 100 episodes, or two more full seasons.
The guys just about got their wish.
Read more: LINK
Posted on 4/6/10 at 1:43 pm to FredSecunda
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There is way too much fluff in this show, and I guess it makes me mad to think about how much better it could have been if they'd sifted through 90% of the BS plotlines.
I would agree with you if it were a movie, but it isn't. They need some of that in order to make a successful tv series, like it or not. It seems that most people enjoy it for what it is.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 1:55 pm to BhamTigah
quote:Yeah, I get what you are saying. The whispers definitely have an omniscient quality to them.
I really enjoyed the conversation you guys had about the whispers. Pretty good theories thrown out IMO.
I'll preface this by saying that it is not my theory of what the whispers are, but some of the dialogue posted of what the whispers were saying reminds me of the Greek gods looking down and talking about humans in some of the old movies from the '60's to early '80's.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 1:57 pm to seawolf06
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I would agree with you if it were a movie, but it isn't. They need some of that in order to make a successful tv series, like it or not.
Breaking Bad does not do this.
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seems that most people enjoy it for what it is.
You're absolutely right. I am definitely in the minority on this one.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:02 pm to FredSecunda
quote:Well yeah, that show is about things that are actually possible. LOST is about a mythical place where all kinds of crazy shite happens. It's just the nature of the subject matter. Not really a fair comparison IMO.
Breaking Bad does not do this.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:05 pm to FredSecunda
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Right, because it would be a smart move to come right out and say "we're going season by season and making this shite up". The original pilot called for Jack to get killed in the first episode, so yeah, I think they are making at least some of it up as they go along.
Season 2 and the beginning of 3 they were certainly trying to kill some time, but from "Through the Looking Glass" onward, this argument is positively retarded. The end game pieces were being set in the end of the 3rd season (Jacob and Jack freaking out over Locke's death).Sure they made a few things up as they went along, but the general plot line has stayed the same. Say what you will about Season 2 killing time and making shite up, but from that point onward there is ample proof they knew where they were taking the story and not just pulling stuff straight out of their arse.
This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:08 pm to steltzequalsbeast
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This might be a little off topic but my friend is arguing with me and saying that the producers wanted the show to go longer than six season but that ABC decided the 2010 end date. What say you? Is my friend's argument rooted in any fact or is he just misrembering something he heard a long time ago?
Absolutely no fact at all. In fact I'm willing to bet that if the writers completely had their way with the series that it would at least be a season shorter. They made Stranger in a Strange Land so bad on purpose, and they said this is the episode quality they would continue to produce if they weren't allowed an end date, so they gave it to them.
This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:12 pm to OMLandshark
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Say what you will about Season 2 killing time and making shite up, but from that point onward there is ample proof they knew where they were taking the story and not just pulling stuff straight out of their arse.
So you think there's going to be resolution to the Dharma Initiative, and plot lines like that? Are you really satisfied with "Jacob having a thing for numbers" and thus, that's where the numbers came from, with each corresponding to a specific candidate? I just think all these things are weak and more or less answers for the sake of being answers.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:16 pm to OMLandshark
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Disagree with the other poster about Vincent. Some of the boars might be MIB, but not the ones that were eaten. All the Polar bears are MIB I believe, uncaged and freed from Hydra Island after the purge.
...And why would the bears be MIB?
I think the one that dragged down Eko into a cave, and the one that attacked Walt and Michael were controlled by MIB.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:17 pm to PortCityTiger24
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We should play a drinking game tonight: every time Desmond says brotha or aye you have to drink
or Yeah
this will get us drunker than Sawyer's game of "I never"
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:49 pm to STLSU
so who's the kid in the woods? Who all can see him? FLocke, and Sawyer can. Richard said he couldn't.
Who is the child? He knows the rules. Could it be a young version of Jacob? Others say Locke, or Aaron?
bumpity bump.
Who is the child? He knows the rules. Could it be a young version of Jacob? Others say Locke, or Aaron?
bumpity bump.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:52 pm to FredSecunda
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So you think there's going to be resolution to the Dharma Initiative, and plot lines like that? Are you really satisfied with "Jacob having a thing for numbers" and thus, that's where the numbers came from, with each corresponding to a specific candidate? I just think all these things are weak and more or less answers for the sake of being answers.
Season 5 resolved DHARMA, and we don't need answer for the numbers since there is no way they could produce an answer that doesn't reek of midiclorians. And I doubt thats where the numbers came from or where they got their powers. The Numbers have by no means been answered, nor do I think they will (or should).
Posted on 4/6/10 at 2:53 pm to STLSU
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I think the one that dragged down Eko into a cave, and the one that attacked Walt and Michael were controlled by MIB.
They were just acting like bears. Its not like the Boar that kept picking on Sawyer and felt like he was testing him.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 3:00 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/6/10 at 3:33 pm to OMLandshark
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midiclorians
You keep using this word like it's part of the English vernacular. It's not. Most non-geeks don't know what the frick you're talking about. And "Darlton" is gayer than sucking cock. Those 2 things combined with some of your smarmy replies the last few pages have you creeping towards OMLanddouche territory again.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 3:37 pm to OMLandshark
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They were just acting like bears. Its not like the Boar that kept picking on Sawyer and felt like he was testing him.
Yeah, I figured MIB claimed them and helped them break out of their cages to get on to the main island after the purge. Not really bears anymore.
Yeah, I don't know about the boar, you got me on that one. What do you think?
Posted on 4/6/10 at 3:59 pm to Foot
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Anyone have any theories about why Zoe is interested in the electromagnetic hot spots while there is a "war" about to take place?
She's a scientists.
yep, geophysicist. Jin, Des and her will be looking for those pockets, as previewed last week.
Posted on 4/6/10 at 4:07 pm to FredSecunda
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So you think there's going to be resolution to the Dharma Initiative, and plot lines like that?
What exactly are you looking for? Dharma was a substantial plot vehicle and its conclusion has been hand wrapped and given to the audience.
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