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re: Let's discuss THAT meeting in the series finale of Game of Thrones
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:23 am to Scoob
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:23 am to Scoob
As the story sets up, that choice and scene make little sense.
But one way it WOULD, is if there were significantly more Unsullied/Dothraki left, and Grey Worm's decision to leave isn't just arbitrary.
Grey Worm controls the fate of not just Jon and Tyrion, but of Westeros, and this Council is summoned to be judged to determine whether they be left alone, or they be stormed and burned to the ground. Grey Worm as Unsullied, is perhaps pissed personally, but he's also a machine capable of carrying out any task without emotion.
Without a current leader and operating under Danaerys' precepts, he poses the riddle as such- he will spare Westeros if the next ruler can build the kingdom as Danareys envisioned, as she had spoken of in all her various statements before going mad. He was present in all meetings and knows her views.
Tyrion probably remarks on the irony that Greyworm can "play games" afterall.
Each prospective candidate speaks up and it's increasingly clear that none are "worthy".
Sansa has some room; as an ally before the war, she gained Dany's respect for how she ruled the North. But the other lords reject her gender, as Varys had predicted... just as they pushed Jon over Dany when he flat refused the call.
Greyworm starts to declare his doom, and Tyrion has an epiphany and nominates Bran.
Bran's just a bystander without ambition or claim, which outrages the others initially... but due to his gift, he can answer the riddles correctly. They have no choice but either to accept him as King, or face the war Greyworm will bring; and divided and weakened by the events of the story, no kingdom would be able to stand.
So as Brandon of House Stark, he meets the lord's requirements, and as the 3 Eyed Raven he correctly answers the riddles posed by Greyworm.
The North is allowed to break free; by Grey Worm to honor the memory of Dany (a Queen ruling justly), and by Bran as new King of the 7(6) Kingdoms. The comment "I can do that, because I'm King" is not just directed to Grey Worm, but also the other lords of the council.
Grey Worm, satisfied that Dany's vision can be brought, relents and leaves Westeros to it's new ruler.
But one way it WOULD, is if there were significantly more Unsullied/Dothraki left, and Grey Worm's decision to leave isn't just arbitrary.
Grey Worm controls the fate of not just Jon and Tyrion, but of Westeros, and this Council is summoned to be judged to determine whether they be left alone, or they be stormed and burned to the ground. Grey Worm as Unsullied, is perhaps pissed personally, but he's also a machine capable of carrying out any task without emotion.
Without a current leader and operating under Danaerys' precepts, he poses the riddle as such- he will spare Westeros if the next ruler can build the kingdom as Danareys envisioned, as she had spoken of in all her various statements before going mad. He was present in all meetings and knows her views.
Tyrion probably remarks on the irony that Greyworm can "play games" afterall.
Each prospective candidate speaks up and it's increasingly clear that none are "worthy".
Sansa has some room; as an ally before the war, she gained Dany's respect for how she ruled the North. But the other lords reject her gender, as Varys had predicted... just as they pushed Jon over Dany when he flat refused the call.
Greyworm starts to declare his doom, and Tyrion has an epiphany and nominates Bran.
Bran's just a bystander without ambition or claim, which outrages the others initially... but due to his gift, he can answer the riddles correctly. They have no choice but either to accept him as King, or face the war Greyworm will bring; and divided and weakened by the events of the story, no kingdom would be able to stand.
So as Brandon of House Stark, he meets the lord's requirements, and as the 3 Eyed Raven he correctly answers the riddles posed by Greyworm.
The North is allowed to break free; by Grey Worm to honor the memory of Dany (a Queen ruling justly), and by Bran as new King of the 7(6) Kingdoms. The comment "I can do that, because I'm King" is not just directed to Grey Worm, but also the other lords of the council.
Grey Worm, satisfied that Dany's vision can be brought, relents and leaves Westeros to it's new ruler.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:24 am to RollTide1987
I suppose it depends how they interpret Bran being on the throne, considering he's a Stark. The North sort of rules both The North and The Six Kingdoms, in a sideways kind of way.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 9:16 am to dgnx6
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You are just making assumptions about the future.
These are educated assumptions based on real history as well as the fictional history of these characters. GRRM is a massive history buff and I would like to think that he wouldn't be dumb enough to write this ending in his novels. This solution insults Tyrion's intelligence.
He believes this solution breaks the wheel, but all it does is makes things worse. A Council of Lords to elect a ruler? Yeah...that won't backfire with a quickness. Let's say Bran dies unexpectedly 20 years from now and these Lords and Ladies reconvene to select a new ruler. What's to stop Bronn of the Blackwater, Lord of Highgarden, Warden of the Reach, and Master of Coin to say to the others - "Yeah, I control a good chunk of the Six Kingdom's food supply and food distribution and also control important trade routes that go through my lands and into King's Landing. I think I'm going to shut the Reach until further notice. My price for re-opening it? Name my son King of the Six Kingdoms."
This also opens up the possibility of the lords of the realm to form secret alliances, assassinate the king/queen, and put someone loyal to their interests on the throne. It's even worse than a hereditary monarchy because the threat of civil war will always loom when a ruler dies. This "solution" is the final insult to Tyrion's character. It's stupid.
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