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Just finished Gimme Shelter doc... Rolling Stones tragedy at Altamont 1969

Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Tidemeister
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:29 pm
Have always heard of it but first time to see the documentary. Unique insight and scenes leadint up to the free performance attended by over 300,000, Woodstock West some labeled it. Deaths in the audience, murders, thanks to Hell's Angels who were spur of the moment security, and rowdy fans. Playing now Criterion Channel, but prob can rent stream it any platform. Great for anyone who remembers or familiar with that time period, event. Even has a segment when Stones recorded at studio in Muscle Shoals, AL.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:35 pm to
It’s crazy seeing The Rolling Stones on that little plywood stage, surrounded by Hell’s Angels, and chaos unfolding around them.

The Stones are forever associated with Altamont, but the Greatful Dead were much more responsible. The Dead led the charge for the event, were the primary organizers, recommended hiring the Hell’s Angels. then fled without playing when things started getting out of control.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:13 pm to
Shouldn't have pulled a gun
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:16 am to
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Deaths in the audience, murders, thanks to Hell's Angels
The event is best known for considerable violence, including the stabbing death of Meredith Hunter and three accidental deaths: two caused by a hit-and-run car accident, and one by LSD induced drowning in an irrigation canal.

Hunter's girlfriend Patty Bredehoft found him and tearfully begged him to calm down and move further back in the crowd with her; but he was reportedly enraged, irrational and "so high he could barely walk". Rock Scully, who could see the audience clearly from the top of a truck by the stage, said of Hunter, "I saw what he was looking at, that he was crazy, he was on drugs, and that he had murderous intent. There was no doubt in my mind that he intended to do terrible harm to Mick or somebody in the Rolling Stones, or somebody on that stage."

Following his initial scuffle with the Angels as he tried to climb onstage, Hunter (as seen in concert footage wearing a bright lime-green suit) returned to the front of the crowd and drew a long-barreled .22 caliber revolver from inside his jacket. Hells Angel Alan Passaro, seeing Hunter drawing the revolver, drew a knife from his belt and charged Hunter from the side, parrying Hunter's pistol with his left hand and stabbing him twice with his right hand, killing him.

The gun was recovered and turned over to police. Hunter's autopsy confirmed he was high on methamphetamine when he died. Passaro was arrested and tried for murder in the summer of 1971, but was acquitted after a jury viewed concert footage showing Hunter brandishing the revolver and concluded that Passaro had acted in self-defense.



This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:35 am
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 5:36 am to
The best part is when the dog strolls across the stage while the Stones are playing.

Posted by Tidemeister
Member since May 2016
1234 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:41 pm to
Good points about trial and acquittal, thanks. The last half of film is riveting because it concentrates on Altamont location. Some really chilling footage of the killing, along with great scenes of rampant drugged out people, etc. You can really sense the unease the Stones started to display as violence near the stage increased. As one writer in the aftermath pointed out, there was no doubt who was in control of the stage from the midpoint on...the Hell's Angels. They were so in control and brazen that one walks right up to Jagger in middle of performance and starts chatting in his ear. The camera man on stage recording the doc was right in face of Jagger and other band members and I could easily see that they were ill at ease. Really telling when Jagger has to stop the show at one point and beg the audience and Angels to please stop the fighting. That lead singer lady for Jefferson Airplane looked frightened during her band's performance after one of the Angels knocked out one of her band members, and so they left early for their safety.

Pic is Angels clubbing fans with cue sticks right in front of stage, after a couple fans knocked over one of the Angels motorcycles while trying to get closer to stage. This scene also captured in the film, and they were swinging those sticks as hard as possible several times, hard enough to kill. As one Angel who was there said in radio interview soon after, you don't mess with a motorcycle belong to an Angel.



This pic shows the moment a Hell's Angle stabs in the back a fan (dressed in green) who had just presented a gun after suffering a gang attack by the Angels in front of stage. The fan was killed but had brought the gun because the Angels had intimidated him earlier in the day and he brought it for protection. He brandished it and suffered consequences. He was actually trying to flee but in the film you can see the Angel go after the fan, grabbing and holding his left arm while swinging knife in high arc. Knife if visible in pic, blurred because this pic is a still from movie film.


This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:53 pm to
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ust finished Gimme Shelter doc... Rolling Stones tragedy at Altamont 1969


Every time someone mentions this, i think of the movie "the Cable Guy"...
Posted by Tidemeister
Member since May 2016
1234 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

It’s crazy seeing The Rolling Stones on that little plywood stage, surrounded by Hell’s Angels, and chaos unfolding around them.

The Stones are forever associated with Altamont, but the Greatful Dead were much more responsible. The Dead led the charge for the event, were the primary organizers, recommended hiring the Hell’s Angels. then fled without playing when things started getting out of control.


Thx for info. I know too that Jefferson Airplane left early because a band member talked back to a Hell's Angel and was assaulted.

As for that stage, it was only 4 feet high instead of more traditional 6 feet or more. Reason for 4 feet is because the Altamont site was a late change of location and rushed carpenters/crew ran out of lumber.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:55 pm
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